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Documents to be stamped by US Dept. of Foreign Affairs?
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Cairo Chica



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Documents to be stamped by US Dept. of Foreign Affairs? Reply with quote

Hi all,
I have an offer from a school, and they are requesting all of my certifications, CV and "certificate of employment" to be stamped by the US Dept of foreign affairs. They say they need this to apply for my work visa.

It's unclear to me why they are being stamped. What would a stamp signify? I have a CELTA, which is a certification from the UK, so how will the US dept of foreign affairs verify that it is a credible document? Also, what is a certificate of employment?

Where do I begin to have this done? Are there regional offices, or does everything need to be sent to DC? How do I get in touch with that dept? Is there a website I'm not finding?

Thanks
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AGoodStory



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we assume that the school is in Egypt? And that you hold a US passport?
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Cairo Chica



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, both are true.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U.S. Department of Foreign Affairs...would that be marital or non-marital?

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Cairo Chica



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
U.S. Department of Foreign Affairs...would that be marital or non-marital?

NCTBA
Hmm.. why would that matter?
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...

1.) There is no such thing as the "U. S. Department of Foreign Affairs...it's the U.S.State Department and,

2.) The term "Affairs" was a play on definitions... Rolling Eyes

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Cairo Chica



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
Well...

1.) There is no such thing as the "U. S. Department of Foreign Affairs...it's the U.S.State Department and,

2.) The term "Affairs" was a play on definitions... Rolling Eyes

NCTBA


1. That's what the school called it. Not finding an answer on the internet, I posted it here as the school requested it, hoping for a serious answer and some help.

2. Thanks for the random BS response while I scramble to get what the school needs to get overseas within weeks for my first teaching job. Rolling Eyes

If you can't help, don't reply. I didn't come here for banter with anonymous posters.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they want to verify your documents they are probably referring to getting an apostille* affixed to them.

The process varies a bit from state to state so the how-to-do-it would depend on the state in question.

Google for your specific particulars.

* The Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement for Legalization for Foreign Public Documents is one of the Hague Conference on Private International Law. It specifies the modalities through which a document issued in one of the signatory countries can be certified for legal purposes in all the other signatory states. Such a certification is called an apostille (a French word meaning certification). It is an international certification comparable to a notarization in domestic law.

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Cairo Chica



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
If they want to verify your documents they are probably referring to getting an apostille* affixed to them.

The process varies a bit from state to state so the how-to-do-it would depend on the state in question.

Google for your specific particulars.

* The Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement for Legalization for Foreign Public Documents is one of the Hague Conference on Private International Law. It specifies the modalities through which a document issued in one of the signatory countries can be certified for legal purposes in all the other signatory states. Such a certification is called an apostille (a French word meaning certification). It is an international certification comparable to a notarization in domestic law.



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Thank you.
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AGoodStory



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cairo Chica wrote:
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Thanks for the random BS response while I scramble to get what the school needs to get overseas within weeks for my first teaching job. Rolling Eyes
If you can't help, don't reply. I didn't come here for banter with anonymous posters.


You might want to consider the possibility that you are less likely to achieve your stated goal of "a serious answer and some help" when you respond with irritation and hostility to another poster's attempt at humor. (Whether or not you care for his personal style, NCTBA is one of several posters who are frequently very helpful and generous with their ME knowledge and experience.) Sifting through irrelevant responses for those useful nuggets is a good skill to hone--and can even be enjoyable. Wink
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Cairo Chica



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have the luxury of time to sift through irrelevant responses. I am shipping overseas for my first teaching job and cannot leave until the visa is processed. Having my documents stamped is the first step in the process and whatever I can do to expedite that, I will. I figured I could come to this board and get advice from seasoned teachers who've done this many times.

I can appreciate a joke and off topic humor, but if you know the answer, include that in with your humor. Don't string me along for days while withholding "useful nuggets".

Because of the time sensitive nature, I am flying to Washington DC to have the documents stamped in person.

Perhaps when I have questions that don't require a speedy response, I'll be in a better mood to respond to attempts at humor.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You, my dear, if of so little humour now, will face a very, VERY steep hill in the MENA. If, as you say, your school mis-wrote a VERY basic name of a government institution so vital to your overseas "venture", I can't even imagine where else they've led you astray.

I will watch this and other spaces for your tension to snap as you wind yer life through the bureaucratic maze of the world that you seek to inflict yerself upon.

Go with God o' Weedhoppa...

Oh, if you require any help of the "U.S. Department of Foreign Affairs", I suggest you seek out the "U. S. Higher Commission" in Cairo...

Now, y'all get on with yer busy and important life...there's a plane ta catch! An' remember, us posters in the region are only here to serve you personally!

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AGoodStory



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cairo Chica wrote:
Don't string me along for days while withholding "useful nuggets"


Umm. . . what? Here's the thing, Chica: alienating the people you are asking for help is seldom a very effective tactic-- it is not likely to get you what you want. Good manners might.

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Perhaps when I have questions that don't require a speedy response, I'll be in a better mood to respond to attempts at humor.


Perhaps. . . perhaps not. However, I'll take up no more of your very valuable time now, just wish you success in your new position, along with great big helpings of resilience, grace, and humor.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly I had already answered her question on the Egypt board yesterday morning. The only form she has to be certified is her CELTA certificate - as she has no degrees and only some volunteer teaching so no letters of employment... and a CV is never done - and I gave her an agent to contact to handle the process. I suspect that the agent would have been cheaper than a flight ticket.

To be honest, I would suspect that if she arrived without her CELTA certificate "certified", it wouldn't make much difference to her employer. This is Egypt... the land of "ma'alish" Cool She doesn't need a visa to go to Egypt... all one needs to do is arrive at the airport with a valid US passport and what is it these days? $25 or whatever they charge.

I already warned her that her employer is likely not going to be much.

VS
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, if she has a rough spell of it, she can always contact the "U.S. High Commission" in Cairo...

NCTBA (the "A" meaning 'admonished')
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