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PattyFlipper
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The only times I have done this is at the Thailand / Malaysian land border (Malaysia also bars entry to holders of visas for Israel), and from Bahrain to Apartheid South Africa, via the Seychelles and it wasn't a problem in either case. Not sure how it would work for Israeli though, and wouldn't really like to take the risk if I were working in Saudi. Also this was many years ago, when border controls were probably not as rigorous as they can be nowadays.
The reason I got the second passport in the first place was because the Israeli immigration officer made a "mistake" and stamped the visa in my passport, instead of on the requested piece of paper ("Oops sorry! Slipped!"  ). Fortunately, I had just finished my contract in the Middle East at the time, so it didn't matter too much, however I know a couple of people who had similar 'mishaps', and they were royally stuffed for returning to their jobs in the Gulf.
Am I right in thinking though that Saudi is the only GCC State which still prohibits Israeli visas?
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The Ever-changing Cleric
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Did you ever enter a country with one of the passports and then depart to another destination using the other? Such as flying into Cairo on one passport. Then doing a round trip to Israel with the second. And then depart again from Cairo with the original passport?
Could this cause problems? Could this even be done?
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you can't enter a country on Passport A and exit on Passport B (which is what I think you're asking). You're in the immigration system as entering on Passport A, and you must exit on that same passport.
I once (2002) entered Turkey on Passport A and left for Georgia (overland) on that same passport, but before they let me exit I had to produce Passport B that had the Georgian visa. Likewise a half hour later entering Georgia, I produced Passport B with a valid Georgian visa but they wanted to know where my Turkish entry and exit stamps were. I had to produce Passport A again. With respect to passports and international travel, you always need to be able to connect the dots or else there's going to be trouble.
Even when everything is still on the up and up, there can be problems as many border guards aren't used to the notion of one person having valid passports from two different countries at the same time. It took me awhile to explain how this was possible. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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Immigration officers don't make "mistakes", or the wouldn't be immigration officers in the first place...especially the Israeli type...they send messages...
One wonders what message was being sent by deliberately stamping the passport of someone who has demonstrated that he worked in the Gulf region...
Hmmm...
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Am I right in thinking though that Saudi is the only GCC State which still prohibits Israeli visas? |
No you are not. |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Dar PattyFlipper,
"Arab countries that accept visitors with Israeli stamped passports:
United Arab Emirates
Egypt
Jordan
Oman
Morocco
Arab (and other "Islamic") countries that DO NOT accept visitors with Israeli stamped passports:
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Kuwait
Iran
Iraq
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Sudan
Yemen
Some tips on how to visit Arab countries after visiting Israel�
Our hot tip for avoiding any future issues when visiting Arab countries: get a second passport. Americans should find this is easy to do: you will have to answer a questionnaire as to why you need it, but then you�ll get a passport valid for two years. So use this passport for visiting Israel and your regular passport for anywhere else in the world.
If a second passport is out of the question, when arriving in Israel ask the immigration clerk to issue the entry stamp on a separate piece of paper because you intend visiting Arab countries after your visit to Israel. It shouldn�t be a problem and has become standard practice for Israeli officials, who have become very familiar with the problem of travelers later visiting Arab countries. Apparently, if you have one of the new biometric passports, the Israeli officials have all your details on computer so won�t stamp your passport anyway.
Another hot tip: use Cyprus as your Middle Eastern gateway to Arab countries. Of course, immigration will know from which country (Cyprus) the plane has come from, but the plane before?"
http://igoogledisrael.com/2009/09/can-i-visit-arab-countries-with-an-israeli-visa-stamp-in-my-passport/
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PattyFlipper
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Am I right in thinking though that Saudi is the only GCC State which still prohibits Israeli visas? |
No you are not. |
What a helpful post.
| Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote: |
Immigration officers don't make "mistakes", or the wouldn't be immigration officers in the first place...especially the Israeli type...they send messages...
Hmmm...
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Very perceptive, Sherlock. Er ..... Perhaps that's why I placed the the word mistake in scare quotes and used the rolleyes emoticon.
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PattyFlipper
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| johnslat wrote: |
Dar PattyFlipper,
"Arab countries that accept visitors with Israeli stamped passports:
United Arab Emirates
Egypt
Jordan
Oman
Morocco
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Thank you for the information. I knew Oman and the UAE no longer had a problem with visits to Israel, as I met nationals from both countries who had been there. Apparently Bahrain and Qatar can also be added to the above list. So of the GCC States, only Kuwait and Saudi Arabia prohibit entry. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| PattyFlipper wrote: |
| Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote: |
Immigration officers don't make "mistakes", or the wouldn't be immigration officers in the first place...especially the Israeli type...they send messages...
One wonders what message was being sent by deliberately stamping the passport of someone who has demonstrated that he worked in the Gulf region...
Hmmm...
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Very perceptive, Sherlock. Er ..... Perhaps that's why I placed the the word mistake in scare quotes and used the rolleyes emoticon. |
Besides pointing out the intellectually bankrupt thing that you did by cherry-picking my post and leaving out a part of my post to support the argument in yer head, Holmes (I've placed it bold so other posters won't be deceived in the message in MY post), I didn't quite catch that as the rolling eyes are within brackets on an entirely different line:
| PattyFlipper wrote: |
| ...the Israeli immigration officer made a "mistake" and stamped the visa in my passport, instead of on the requested piece of paper ("Oops sorry! Slipped!" ). |
Serves me right for blowing off that mind-reading course on the back of the Cracker Jacks box! 
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