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What are an Indian's chances?

 
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prabhatdreamz



Joined: 01 May 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: What are an Indian's chances? Reply with quote

Hi,

Firstly, I apologize if similar questions have been posted somewhere else. I just wanted a fresh and a current take on this overly-common query. Any help would be greatly appreciated. So please bear with me.

I'm Prabhat Ram from India. I'm an engineering graduate, but that field doesn't interest me anymore. I really want to teach English, especially in one of the Asian countries; preferably Japan, China, Thailand, or Taiwan. There was a time when S.Korea would be my very first choice, but the reality of immigration requirements made me look elsewhere.

As for my education, my schooling was done in English medium schools, and just to add a little weight to my resume, I even took up one of the TEFL courses (online, though). I don't have a thick accent, but I don't sound like a typical native speaker, either. I would categorize my accent as neutral, with a slight inclination towards American pronunciation (thanks to loads of movies and TV shows I watch). My grammar is sound enough to be able to teach a given class.

So what I really want to know is what country would I face the least number of issues, when it comes to their requirements checklist; especially w.r.t. to my origin ? I've been applying at numerous places online, with only rare responses from their side (mostly disappointing, on account of not being a native speaker). I don't even have the financial luxury to travel to a particular country, and get into a face-to-face interview just to improve my chances.

So, it'd be really nice if any of you could help me out with either your advices, suggestions, tips or any pertinent info.

Thank you.
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AGoodStory



Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=82832

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=82950
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be brutally honest, being Indian (as in holding an Indian passport) and NOT having a degree in either education or English your chances are close to "0" for obtaining work abroad as an English teacher.
(in most cases these are immigration requirements for people not coming from one of the "western" English speaking countries.)

IF you are of Indian descent and hold a western passport then you at least have a fighting chance of employment.

Your on-line tefl cert won't go very far.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't try but don't be surprised when you have no success.

Sorry.

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nickpellatt



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked with an India guy here, www.omeida.org who held no teaching qualifications and an unrelated degree and MA. Other non-native speakers also worked locally .. I guess the demand for teachers was high enough that they would overlook non-native status on occasion.
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that the Indian gentleman may BE a native English speaker, or so near to one (all schooling in English) as to make no difference.

Except pronunciation. The 900-lb gorilla in the room in many cases, I'm afraid.
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Old Surrender



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ran into two Mexicans in China teaching English -- Mexican passports and everything. In this industry, it seems like anything is possible but nothing is easy.

Good luck.
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DoubleDutch



Joined: 01 Apr 2009
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Location: China

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Surrender wrote:
In this industry, it seems like anything is possible but nothing is easy.

This. Not having a passport from one of the "Big 5" native English speaking countries, and not having a Caucasian face, will make things a lot more difficult. If you really do have a neutral accent, or something resembling an American one, that would be a strength. What do native Brits and Americans say about your accent?

You can probably forget about Japan and Taiwan. There are possibilities in China and Thailand, but you will come across a lot of prejudice. You should also consider Cambodia. You will need to be open to accept the more unattractive jobs (both in terms of pay and location). Your best bet is probably to do an on-site TEFL course in the country of your choice, and use the school's contacts to land you a job.
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MrMrLuckyKhan



Joined: 08 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoubleDutch wrote:
You should also consider Cambodia. You will need to be open to accept the more unattractive jobs (both in terms of pay and location). Your best bet is probably to do an on-site TEFL course in the country of your choice, and use the school's contacts to land you a job.


Cambodia is an option. You'd probably get around (I'm guessing, based on teachers from the philippines) $6 per hour, which is about half of what native speakers get...
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks are everything, I ran into a Russian descent Israeli teaching and China and his English wasn't too hot, but due to his looks he had job offers. Not having a Western passport will work against you. expect less pay and more hours.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran into a Russian descent Israeli teaching and China and his English wasn't too hot, Shocked
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I bet his adherence to ideologically approved thinking was second to none!
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