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chumpchange
Joined: 24 Aug 2010
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Location: Bucheon, SK
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I'm sure this information can be found if I take the time to pick through this whole forum, but I was hoping to get a quick sum up of what I can expect from a job in China in regards to pay, hours, benefits, etc. (i.e. contract details)
What is considered a fair deal/ standard for a newbie (no experience, BA, no tesl)?
I have a BA, one year experience in Korea, and a TESL cert, but figure it's good to know the basic standard. Plus I'm sure there are others without experience or tesl who want to know where they stand too. |
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maotouying
Joined: 16 May 2005
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Location: My Chair In China
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: Re: What to expect... |
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| chumpchange wrote: |
I'm sure this information can be found if I take the time to pick through this whole forum, but I was hoping to get a quick sum up of what I can expect from a job in China in regards to pay, hours, benefits, etc. (i.e. contract details)
What is considered a fair deal/ standard for a newbie (no experience, BA, no tesl)?
I have a BA, one year experience in Korea, and a TESL cert, but figure it's good to know the basic standard. Plus I'm sure there are others without experience or tesl who want to know where they stand too. |
Well its not so much the pay (but it is kind of) vs living standards. If you are living in a nicely furnished apartment. Then that is the major hurdle.
Getting paid on time and the amount that you agreed upon that is next. If it is 12 hours or 18 hours (here in China some schools 1 hour is 50 minutes and then 10 minute break). Usually 2 hours class time per session. Usually starting at 8 am to noon. 2 to 2 1/2 hours lunch break or more depends the schedule. Some classes up to 9 PM and again all depends your schedule.
My present school will be 18 hours a week 45 minutes per class session SICK!
I am not sure of the bennies you refer to. Such as air fair? Travel allowance, or even some schools do divvy up some form of Health Insurance. All depends I guess. |
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nickpellatt
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Its probably waaaay to general a query I reckon! China is kinda large, and the diversity that exists in the country in terms of places to work, climate, and living standards vary so greatly there isnt really a norm.
I think the only given you can really suggest is that wages are normally lower than found in Taiwan, Japan and Korea, but the cost of living is also lower. Housing is normally included, and most employees also enjoy an end of year bonus which is typically called flight/travel bonus.
Teaching tends to focus on oral English, with grammar/exam prep/listening and writing taken care of by Chinese teachers.
There will be exceptions to the above of course. With the variety of work available, in a variety of locations....there is no general rule of thumb IMO |
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maotouying
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Location: My Chair In China
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| nickpellatt wrote: |
Its probably waaaay to general a query I reckon! China is kinda large, and the diversity that exists in the country in terms of places to work, climate, and living standards vary so greatly there isnt really a norm.
I think the only given you can really suggest is that wages are normally lower than found in Taiwan, Japan and Korea, but the cost of living is also lower. Housing is normally included, and most employees also enjoy an end of year bonus which is typically called flight/travel bonus.
Teaching tends to focus on oral English, with grammar/exam prep/listening and writing taken care of by Chinese teachers.
There will be exceptions to the above of course. With the variety of work available, in a variety of locations....there is no general rule of thumb IMO |
Aw come on how many of your students run up to you with their grammar problems? Or is it how many of your Chinese teachers ask you almost on a daily routine which is correct or proper sentence? If you don't get hit with 15 to 20 of these a week, your golden. I must practice stealth more often.  |
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Miles Smiles
Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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Location: Heebee Jeebee
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:05 am Post subject: |
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to get an idea of the kinds of jobs offered and the salary range by area, school type, and desired credentials, look at abroadchina.org.
You'll get a better idea of the big picture if you look there than ask a question that is asked every other day, but can't really be answered because of the many variables.
Thanks for asking. |
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Teatime of Soul
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nickpellatt
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| maotouying wrote: |
| nickpellatt wrote: |
Teaching tends to focus on oral English, with grammar/exam prep/listening and writing taken care of by Chinese teachers.
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Aw come on how many of your students run up to you with their grammar problems? Or is it how many of your Chinese teachers ask you almost on a daily routine which is correct or proper sentence? If you don't get hit with 15 to 20 of these a week, your golden. I must practice stealth more often. |
I have never escaped such queries, but facing general questions outside class is different to teaching lessons on said things. if you were working at most places in the EU (for example) you would be expecting to teach skills lessons such as listening and reading, and entire lessons might also have to focus on grammatical points or other target language. Few FT's do that in China IMO.
Ditto with exam prep. Many jobs in the EU could have you teaching FCE, CAE, CPE exam classes. Chinese teachers would probably do CET prep in China tho! |
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Zero
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| if I take the time to pick through this whole forum |
This forum is actually pretty neat in that it doesn't make you do that. If you look up at the top of your screen, toward the right side, there are several buttons. One of them, right between "FAQ" and "Memberlist," is called "Search." And it enables you to narrow down the old posts so that you can selectively read the ones that pertain to your situation. Give it a try!
But anyway, to answer your question, a standard job is 4,000 RMB per month, 30 teaching hours per week, no housing provided. You pay your own airfare. You might get the gig with just a BA, but I would recommend going for a master's in TEFL before applying. |
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