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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:38 am    Post subject: knowledge comes with experience Reply with quote
couldn't resist posting this in case anyone missed it.

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Male Teachers Needed to Work in Saudi Arabia to Teach Adult Men


the title of a job vacancy on the web. i just love the 'adult men' bit.

the author has clearly realized that in that region, and its immediate environs, not very many 'men' are 'adult'

excellent.


best
basil
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wonder how they are defining "adult" - is it by age? is there a "maturity" test? Cool

Will the male teachers have to take the same test?

VS
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Big Poppa Pump



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm guessing it will come down to a coin toss.
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007



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
veiledsentiments wrote:
I wonder how they are defining "adult" - is it by age? is there a "maturity" test? Cool

Will the male teachers have to take the same test?

VS

Well, VS, believe it or not, in this region of the world, a man who is not circumcised is not an 'adult man' in addition to other characteristics like responsibility, maturity, and sound mind.

Well, if the male teacher is not a Muslim, then the definition of 'adulthood' is different! Laughing

So, I guess the title of the job advert is correct, at least from their point of view.
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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
007 wrote:
So, I guess the title of the job advert is correct, at least from their point of view.

that's a s t r e t c h
Circumcision as the basis of a social linguistic parse?
The phrase adult men is simply redundant. What are you defending, 007? The ad? Or are you deflecting derision of it? The ad is poorly written. So what?
The ad clumsily seeks an action for an agent as well.
"Male Teachers Needed to Work in Saudi Arabia to Teach Adult Men"
Teachers needed to work to teach...in Saudi Arabia...male ones for men.
What about:
Male teachers needed for adult males in Saudi Arabia?
In a newspaper, that edit might save you a few dollars a week.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear 007,

This gentleman is incorrect, then?

"Walaikum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

I pray this finds you in the best of health and spirits. While circumcision is an incumbent religious duty in Islam, it is not a condition for being a Muslim. Given that, it doesn't affect the validity of his prayer, or your marriage.

[ref: Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar]

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?id=18758&hd=1&cate0&t=rss

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John
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
johnslat wrote:
[ref: Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar]

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?id=18758&hd=1&cate0&t=rss

Regards,
John


Aye, but the kitty cat is obviously a Shia'a...I mean, why else would he publicly beat himself to a bloody pulp on a daily basis and experience self-gratification in doing so?

Over to you, SnB...

NCTBA
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007



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
johnslat wrote:
Dear 007,

This gentleman is incorrect, then?

"Walaikum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

I pray this finds you in the best of health and spirits. While circumcision is an incumbent religious duty in Islam, it is not a condition for being a Muslim. Given that, it doesn't affect the validity of his prayer, or your marriage.

[ref: Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar]

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?id=18758&hd=1&cate0&t=rss

Regards,
John

Well, of course circumcision is not a condition for being a Muslim, circumcision is obligatory for the Muslim male if he is able to do it. If for medical reason, or any other reasons, a Muslim is unable to circumcise, then he does not commit a sin by not doing it.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear 007,

And I assume when he reacher "manhood," he's considered an "adult."

Regards,
John
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