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Harmon Hall and Cambridge ESOL
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PlayadelSoul



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Harmon Hall and Cambridge ESOL Reply with quote

http://www.cambridgeesol.org/what-we-do/newsroom/2010/english-programme-mexico.html

Onward and upward. Smile
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a big change, and nice fat contract for Cambridge!
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mejms



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I know of Harmon Hall, seems like a bizarre combination, but I'm sure it looks good for both.
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PlayadelSoul



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mejms wrote:
From what I know of Harmon Hall, seems like a bizarre combination, but I'm sure it looks good for both.


Not sure I understand this comment. What do you know of Harmon Hall that would make this arrangement "bizarre?"
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mejms



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harmon Hall doesn't present itself as a professional, Business English oriented provider. It's cheesy, and I've always known it to have mostly high school and college-aged kids. I had one friend work there years ago. He told me that it has a very strict, fairly communicative system developed in games and interactive activities, definitely for young people. Recently graduated students are often recruited to become teachers. The idea is that the system takes care of itself, and the teachers, inexperienced as they may be, are just there to facilitate the process: show the pictures, get the students singing, etc.

I can't see Harmon Hall shifting to companies. But people buy the name, and everyone in Mexico knows both Harmon Hall and Cambridge. That's why I said that I'm sure it looks good for both. Big names coming together always wow people.
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PlayadelSoul



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mejms wrote:
Harmon Hall doesn't present itself as a professional, Business English oriented provider. It's cheesy, and I've always known it to have mostly high school and college-aged kids. I had one friend work there years ago. He told me that it has a very strict, fairly communicative system developed in games and interactive activities, definitely for young people. Recently graduated students are often recruited to become teachers. The idea is that the system takes care of itself, and the teachers, inexperienced as they may be, are just there to facilitate the process: show the pictures, get the students singing, etc.

I can't see Harmon Hall shifting to companies. But people buy the name, and everyone in Mexico knows both Harmon Hall and Cambridge. That's why I said that I'm sure it looks good for both. Big names coming together always wow people.


I think you are working on outdated and false assumptions. I won't engage in yet another argument on the subject, but it seems that many do exactly the same as you. I would suggest doing some research into the company and how it operates. You might surprise yourself with what you find.
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mejms



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think you are working on outdated and false assumptions. I won't engage in yet another argument on the subject, but it seems that many do exactly the same as you. I would suggest doing some research into the company and how it operates. You might surprise yourself with what you find.


I wasn't looking for an argument at all. I just made a passing comment in one post that you asked me to clarify. You're right that it's always good to be more informed, but unless Harmon Hall has revamped their marketing scheme in the last couple months (which is possible if they're making the transition to working with Cambridge), the last TV commercials I saw from them definitely fit my description.

I can see, though, that HH is very dear to you and I'm not out to knock it. It could be a good school after all, but I've had lots of students pass through their doors and the best they've said is, "It's alright."
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Enchilada Potosina



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's known as Harmon Hell in SLP. The franchise here doesn't have a great reputation. It's been around for a while, been revamped a few times and is just one of many mediocre schools here.
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