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Sashadroogie
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| Not a rant at all Justin. A well-worded and reasoned post. The previous post, however... |
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johnslat
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AGoodStory
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| AdrianG4 wrote: |
If you find that understanding and teaching your mother tongue . . . matches the level of complexity of pulling out ones teeth, then -- well .. |
Actually, I think the "level of complexity" of teaching English quite often exceeds that of pulling a tooth, Adrian. (I mean, really, you grab a pair of pliers, you open a bottle of vodka. . . what's so complicated?) But as Justin and others have said,
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| English teachers don't just have to know English. They have to know how to teach. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| AGoodStory wrote: |
(I mean, really, you grab a pair of pliers, you open a bottle of vodka. . . what's so complicated?) |
Some areas of overlap with teaching... |
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AGoodStory
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
Some areas of overlap with teaching... |
You must be referring to the pliers! |
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Isla Guapa
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I've often referred to getting some of my more reluctant students to say anything in class in English as akin to pulling teeth!  |
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Iceman33
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I never really had any teacher in my life who impressed me with their teaching skills.
Sure, a person can always strive to improve his teaching skills, but at the end of the day, he either has it or he doesn't, despite all the "pedagogical" knowledge acquired or to be acquired.
Who is/what makes a "good" teacher still is draped in some subjectivity. Being fully objective in this regard is virtually impossible.
We all like to brag up our professions and make them sound extremely difficult to the outside world. I've done the same as a translator (which is very, very difficult). Our egos can get the best of us!
Also, I agree that subject knowledge is extremely important, but no more than the ability to "clearly relay" the message (teaching skills). You have to have good dose of both, and when one is lacking, the students suffer. That's just a fact.
Yes, I can say that TESOL requirements are getting a big more strict worldwide. |
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Sashadroogie
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I never really had any teacher in my life who impressed me with their teaching skills.
Me neither, hic! So that's why I tokk up teaching, hic! So as I could impress myself. I astound myself sometimes. It amazes me still............ hic! |
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Iceman33
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
I never really had any teacher in my life who impressed me with their teaching skills.
Me neither, hic! So that's why I tokk up teaching, hic! So as I could impress myself. I astound myself sometimes. It amazes me still............ hic! |
Well, I can't say that you aren't a good teacher as I haven't had you. Perhaps you could give me just one English lesson so I can find out
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Iceman33
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
I never really had any teacher in my life who impressed me with their teaching skills.
Me neither, hic! So that's why I tokk up teaching, hic! So as I could impress myself. I astound myself sometimes. It amazes me still............ hic! |
Too bad you couldn't try your TESOL skills on me so I might have a chance to meet my "first good teacher"
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caromdweller
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| Since you are from Vancouver forget about teaching these ungrateful arhythmic zipperheads and concentrate on indoor grow rooms kid. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Iceman33 wrote: |
| Sashadroogie wrote: |
I never really had any teacher in my life who impressed me with their teaching skills.
Me neither, hic! So that's why I tokk up teaching, hic! So as I could impress myself. I astound myself sometimes. It amazes me still............ hic! |
Too bad you couldn't try your TESOL skills on me so I might have a chance to meet my "first good teacher"
Take care |
If nothing else, we'd have a great old drink and a pleasant chat. Hic! |
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