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		bootbyrd
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: visable tattoos, certificate programs and teaching english | 
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				visable tattoos, certificate programs and teaching english   
 
 
 
I am interested in going to Asia to teach English. My prefences are Japan, Tawian, and if I get a degree South Korea. Currently I don't have a degree, but I am working on getting a two year adult education teaching certificate. I also have volunteered for the last year in an ESl classroom as a teaching assitant. AS well I have taken one of those teach and travel courses, which I can see now is kind of a rip off. Although it did give me a lot of information, and I guess that's not a bad thing. 
 
 
on to my main question... I have a number of large tattoos. I will say all of them can easily be covered depending on what I wear (regular collered shirts that means no v necks, and long skirts and/or opaque tights, and/or pants). I was wondering what world views of tattoos are and especially women with tattoos. I know (or I have heard) that the Japanese consider other Japanese with tattoos lower class or gang members. But what about westerners that are tattooed? 
 
 
Also and i know this has been asked a hundred times, but since I am only getting a certificate, and not an actual four year degree will this harm my chances of getting a job. I am hoping the combination of education and experience will be enough to get a good job, but there are so many different opinions I am having a hard time following it all. I suppose technically I could take four years to do the certificate, and take a ton of electives, but I would much rather try to finish it in two. 
 
 
or alternately if you have taken some courses and working towards a degree what are your chances, and what are your options? | 
			 
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		shmooj
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Add Japan to your list of no-go countries without a degree I'm afraid. 
 
 
Tattoos are taboo there and although you are a Westerner they will still draw more attention than you will appreciate - especially if you like going to hot springs. 
 
 
Search the Japan forum for "tattoo" and you should pull up a thread that discussed this a while back. | 
			 
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		scot47
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:46 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| If you have a "visable" tatoo I suggest Spelling Therapy before you do anything ! | 
			 
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		bootbyrd
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| ha! I didn't even notice that, I am a dummyhead.  Visible tattoos! | 
			 
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		bootbyrd
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  Add Japan to your list of no-go countries without a degree I'm afraid. 
 
 
Tattoos are taboo there and although you are a Westerner they will still draw more attention than you will appreciate - especially if you like going to hot springs. 
 
 
Search the Japan forum for "tattoo" and you should pull up a thread that discussed this a while back. | 
	 
 
 
 
Thank you for the advice. So even with a certificate degree I still will have a hard time? When they say degree they are looking specifically for a four year course that says BA? | 
			 
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		ls650
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:26 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | So even with a certificate degree I still will have a hard time? When they say degree they are looking specifically for a four year course that says BA? | 
	 
 
 
 
Yes - if they say degree they specifically mean a BA or BSc.
 
 
I've been told that some Japanese schools like NOVA while hire you without a degree if you have a TEFL only and have the equivalent of a working holiday visa.  You can get a visa to work there legally for 18 months - but once the visa expires that's it. | 
			 
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		naturegirl321
 
  
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