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Zero · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402

There is no tide. There won't be. Mortgages, other debts, families, fear of going abroad, lack of interest in such places as China, reluctance to give up unemployment benefits, and other factors will keep people in place. There might be an uptick in new college graduates going abroad. But the regulations in China aren't supposed to allow them in anyway (two-year rule) and I would say any such uptick will be minimal.

Daphne · Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 119

Well, 7969, I did give the stats for S. Korea. If I had more time I would go and dig up the stats for the other countries I mentioned, but perhaps better if you do some research on the numbers yourself.

Keep in Mind that for Japan and Taiwan the number of teachers holding work permits might be down, as quite a few major employers have gone belly up recently due to the lack of clients (e.g. NOVA in Japan, Berlitz in Taiwan).

I would say to sinobear that anyone working full-time as an ESL teacher could or should consider it his or her "field," even if it is not a career they intend to keep indefinitely.

Although the influx of California teachers is not something I have lots of insight to, one thing that is pretty clear from various sources (including postings on the SK forum here) is that those holding degrees from prestigious American Universities are a much more common sight there and in other higher-paying areas of the region.

Ten years ago a Stanford or Ivy League grad working in Korean hagwon was both very rare and downright laughable, but things have changed nowadays.

LanGuTou · Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 621 Location: Shandong

I would like to pass my thanks to Sinobear for his kind comments. I feel truly flattered!

Oddly, I often wish I didn't have to do the job that I do. I am trained in Food Safety and Quality Management. Yes, there is a very obvious need for people from my background in China but I would rather there be no melamine in baby formula, no poisonous pesticides all over vegetables and no growth hormones in the fish we eat. Unfortunately, the ******* that care more about a few yuan than a baby's life exist so I have to find ways to thwart their disgusting activities.

In China, sometimes it feels like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. I log onto various internet forums to gauge feeling. I know things are far from perfect in China from a food safety perspective. That is why I have devoted so much time and money being here. I sit on various working panels and advisory committees and try to convey people's concerns as well as try to make constructive suggestions.

The problem is this is China. Every criticism and observation has to be worded in a certain way. I get ripped apart by the likes of Kukiv who do not fully understand the situation I am under.

Certain people in China in very senior governmental positions know exactly who I am. They also know exactly what forums I contribute to and what usernames I have. Food safety is a very sensitive issue and I simply cannot make blase criticisms publically.

Sometimes, it wears me down dealing with the issues. Everything has to be worded in such a way that progress is being made or others are just as bad if not worse.

kukiv · Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 328

LanGuTou · Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 621 Location: Shandong

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Zero · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402

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mat chen · Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 494 Location: xiangtan hunan

Yes during earthquake season there are certain precautions taken. Rope skipping is banned in primary schools and all basketball hoops are lowered to 8 feet. Sexual exercise is restricted to vertical positions. Kowtowing is not allowed on mountain tops. These are just a few of the precautions that make a difference.

unclealex · Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Posts: 38

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7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

mat chen · Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 494 Location: xiangtan hunan

Ya living from pay to pay is great. But in China you pay to work. I personally have hit bottom here. I have a Chinese wife and two kids and have been burnt after finishing all my contracts most of the time. You pay to work in China. You pay transportation , you are paid at their will . And the promissed overtime that you were supposed to see will not be there.
I don't no how to tell them my pain. They know I work hard teaching English.
I have trouble also with the numbers about Korea. I worked there and was paid.
Is this a global phenomina? Wage slaves and when you asks for your due payment you are called a trouble maker.

DixieCat · Joined: 24 Aug 2010 Posts: 263

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