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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The deal wuz cancelled as it seems that we have an unwritten deal with a different country in the region that buys the same kind of munitions from us that we would never, ever allow a sale of an offensive weapons system to its Arab "neighbors".


"Buys???"


"Read my lips...there wuz no quid..pro..quo...!"

NCTBA...a.k.a. George H. W. Bush (Technically of Texas, but mostly of Maine...)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: harrumph Reply with quote

All leftist tosh. If the US and UK didn't supply the arms, the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans.............. etc would. Reality check time to all the idealists on the board.

Boeing, Northrup, BAe et al all compete in a global market and prop the EFL market up with well paid jobs....don't knock 'em.

It's ironic that countries ruled by Islam (peace) need so many bloody guns to fight each other.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the US and UK didn't supply the arms, the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans.............. etc would.Reality check time to all the idealists on the board.


North Korea (etc) is a major international arms supplier?

Seems like it really is 'reality check time'.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: harrumph Reply with quote

sharter wrote:
It's ironic that countries ruled by Islam (peace) need so many bloody guns to fight each other.

Well, the irony and the mother of all realities is that Uncle Sam is the one who is supplying those �Islamic� countries with arms and helping the merchants of death to suck blood from the people of the 3rd world!

Here is the latest casualties of Uncle Sam in Iraq:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4418
Since "Mission Not Accomplished" (5/1/03) 4279
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3559
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 190
Since Operation New Dawn 2

American Wounded: 31929

Source: http://antiwar.com/casualties/

Hey sharter, I suggest you put a casualty counter in your heart!

Also, I suggest you watch the new film title "The Lord of War":
Actor: Viktor Bout
Director: Uncle Sam
Music: Simpson
D�cor: Sheikh Nano

Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as everything is relative, North Korea is probably way up there when it comes the weapons sales in relation to G.D.P.

Whilst not officially anywhere near the top (as a World pariah...who can tell?), can you imagine what kind of basket case their economy would be without their export market?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's ironic that countries ruled by Islam (peace) need so many bloody guns to fight each other.


FALLACY
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: harrumph Reply with quote

sharter wrote:
It's ironic that countries ruled by Islam (peace) need so many bloody guns to fight each other.

The same reason the countries supposedly ruled by Christianity (recall the "prince of peace" title) sell and use so many bloody guns to attack each other and others.

VS
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinda reminds me of the old Strategic Air Command (SAC) motto: "Peace is our Profession".

The icon?...a mailed hand gripping a bolt of lightning!

Of course, VS, you'd NEVER have an idea what a B-52 sounds or looks like! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
Of course, VS, you'd NEVER have an idea what a B-52 sounds or looks like! Laughing Laughing Laughing

NCTBA

Well, Simpson, you reminded me of the symphony of those B-52 and their 'smart' bombs' in TORA BORA. The B-52 failed their mission in TORA BORA, and the 'smart' bombs missed their target by 10 kM South-East of the location of Bin Laden and instead killed American servicemen!!

'Smart' bombs! What a joke for Uncle Sam! Laughing

Mission accomplished! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah!!! There's the kitty which I seek!

What, what, what??? 007 comin' out with a negative post about the U.S.? Who coulda seen that one coming? You with yer secret desire to become a 'merican!

Come on over...we've got open arms and room for many different opinions and no Official Secrets Act to muzzle us! Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pakistan has THE BOMB
Iran is working on THE BOMB
Israel has THE BOMB

There we have it. Stability.

ALL ELSE IS VANITY.

Regards.

Grendal
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grendal wrote:
Pakistan has THE BOMB
Iran is working on THE BOMB
Israel has THE BOMB

There we have it. Stability.

ALL ELSE IS VANITY.

Regards.

Grendal


You missed one thing, G...that car is DA BOMB!!! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Dave's members, you are trying to figure out what politicians and army commanders are doing; I hope they in turn know what they are doing Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course, VS, you'd NEVER have an idea what a B-52 sounds or looks like!


That took me back to the 1st Gulf War... low-flying B-52s were a weekly sight from our balcony in Jeddah. I had just turned a teenager a few months prior Cool.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey - wanna hear what B-52s sound like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3YqaIxDp_0&feature=related

unless, of course, you're talking about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt4xxVyZvwM&NR=1

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John
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