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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:51 pm Post subject: The dancing monkey in Canada |
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Last night, I was the victim of the "dancing monkey". I signed up for a late night French conversation class.
The teacher's French knowledge was based on grade 12 French in an English school (I have one year university level French)
No French was spoken in the class (CONVERSATION class?). She said French phrases (for one hour) and asked us for the English translations.
The teacher openly stated she had a phobia of public speaking and needed to sit down to calm her nerves
The teacher did not know the phrases "allez-y", "� bient�t", etc.
After this - the CD player and songs broke out
Eek. Getting my refund today. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Has she worked in the Far East? |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Why would somebody who's useless at teaching French in Canada have necessarily worked in the Far East, Sasha? Incompetent language teachers can be found anywhere and everywhere, and it's not like they all went off to somewhere like Japan for a year or two to get supposedly "super useless" experience now is it! |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:34 am Post subject: |
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The strangest part of the story, I think, is that someone who's teaching French in Canada doesn't know the language better. Aren't there tons of people proficient at the language there? |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Here's an example of a question from our written quiz (in a conversation class?):
1. Which phrase does not belong?
a) Bonjour
b) Bonsoir
c) Salut
Belong to what? Hello, good evening, hi?
Sashadroogie: She didn't say, but considering she was about 20 years old, I doubt it - but that never stopped anyone before, did it?
fluffyhamster: Unfortunately true about incompetent teachers. I was so used to my professional conversation instructor (at the local college) that my expectations were obviously too high for an adult education course!
jpvanderwerf2001: That's a strange thing too. This is British Columbia, so there aren't as many francophones, but there are enough people who are bilingual to apply for this job. I saw the advertisement for this job (I also work for the city) and it paid about $28/hr. |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:08 am Post subject: |
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28 bones an hour?! I'm surprised they didn't get some professor for that kind of cash  |
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santi84
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:37 am Post subject: |
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jpvanderwerf2001 wrote: |
28 bones an hour?! I'm surprised they didn't get some professor for that kind of cash  |
That's the beauty of bureaucracy. The city will hire internal employees before considering outside applicants. If an internal employee claims to be fluent in French and says she can teach - she's hired. As much as we'd love to complain about ESL administrators, at least they know they are hiring a dancing monkey when they do it. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:43 am Post subject: |
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I asked because the Dancing Monkey is primarily an Eastern phenomenon, is it not. China, especially. Surprising to see it in N America, or am I being naive? |
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Ariadne
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I don't think the gal teaching French in Canada was entertaining enough to be called a 'dancing monkey'. Pejorative term, yes, but it usually suggests a certain amount of entertainment value.
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cassava
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 175
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Santi 84:
If you are serious about improving your French, you should take one of the many government-sponsored immersion French programs. They are available all across Canada. The Feds do a great job in this regard, and the courses offered by Laval University, for example, are excellent.
If you are a teacher and have the summer off, you might want to think about taking some of the courses available in St.Pierre/Miquelon. They might be slightly more expensive than the ones offered in Canada, but they are first rate. |
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santi84
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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cassava wrote: |
Santi 84:
If you are serious about improving your French, you should take one of the many government-sponsored immersion French programs. They are available all across Canada. The Feds do a great job in this regard, and the courses offered by Laval University, for example, are excellent.
If you are a teacher and have the summer off, you might want to think about taking some of the courses available in St.Pierre/Miquelon. They might be slightly more expensive than the ones offered in Canada, but they are first rate. |
Thanks for the information. I have been calling around the CEGEPs in Montreal (south shore), where we will be relocating to in January, but it seems that these programs are only available to non-Canadians. I have a four month old baby so I won't be able to leave and take any full-time course, but I'll check out the program at Laval. We might move to St Foy as well, so that would be a great option. I'm looking at UQAM too.
Thanks!
And Ariadne you are probably correct, there was not enough entertainment. Perhaps it is because I was leaving my baby at 8-9pm (my only time of relaxation after bed but before the night feedings), but I wasn't entertained at all, in fact I was pretty pissed at the waste of time! |
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