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tina20



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: advice Reply with quote

(edited due to TMI)

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Montanaland



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: certified Reply with quote

Since your not a native speaker from the US,England,Australia etc... than I would have say your going to have to go back to school for a yr or two and get certified...which is also the best long term route for myself... a white boy from Montana.

With your undergrad degree already in english it is the perfect fit.


I came across what looks like a pretty painless certificaion program on here in Victoria, B.C. ....fyi Smile
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since your not a native speaker from the US,England,Australia etc... than I would have say your going to have to go back to school for a yr or two and get certified...which is also the best long term route for myself... a white boy from Montana

What?? Shocked

Tina, as a long-term EFL/ESL teacher (12+ years and upper level quals) I think it would help us to know what regions you're interested in teaching in.

As you are not from one of the recognised Anglophone countries, there are some places where you could reasonably expect to find employment, and some places where you could not.

I think if you give us a slightly more detailed picture of what you hope to do, we can offer more concrete advice.

I work in a region where we have a balance of native and non-native speaking teachers, by the way.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: certified Reply with quote

Montanaland wrote:
Since your not a native speaker from the US,England,Australia etc... than I would have say your going to have to go back to school for a yr or two and get certified...


Montanaland, I think you're confusing getting an initial TEFL certification, like a CELTA, which takes a month of full-time work, with certification needed to teach in public schools in the US, which could take a year or longer.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused - who is the non-native speaker posting here?

Tina, if you really want to get into TEFL, then go for it. Yes, there will be some doors closed to you, but others will be open. As said, it depends on what region you're thinking of working in. Switching careers: well: that's impossible for anyone else but you to decide. But bear in mind that TEFL is not regarded as a career at all, even by some within the profession. However, if you do switch, your corporate training, MBA etc., should be a some value in TEFL and so the corporate English route is definitely an option.

As for the native English thing, well... based on your written English here you are more 'native' than the illiterates I've worked with, so I wouldn't let that worry you unduly. CELTA will screen your language abilities in any case.

However, I'm not sure about this contentment you wish to experience. Don't think I've experienced it either...
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tina20



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone Smile

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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having and MBA and work experience will be a plus if you want to teach business English. They are still no guarantee, so get some teaching certification to go along with that, and be mentally prepared for whatever roadblocks you may face from countries that don't consider India as a native English speaking country.

Start looking around for what interests you in certain countries, and find out what the market is there.
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Montanaland



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: certified Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
Montanaland wrote:
Since your not a native speaker from the US,England,Australia etc... than I would have say your going to have to go back to school for a yr or two and get certified...


Montanaland, I think you're confusing getting an initial TEFL certification, like a CELTA, which takes a month of full-time work, with certification needed to teach in public schools in the US, which could take a year or longer.




No, my thought is if she's planning on making a career move into esl... getting certified.. which in her case could be less arduous due to the fact that she already has an english degree would be optimal. I'm thinking less native tongue road blocks for here also?? A celta could be the first step
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of certification are you talking about? There are different kinds that are appropriate to different sorts of jobs in different sorts of countries.
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Montanaland



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:51 pm    Post subject: sure Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
What kind of certification are you talking about? There are different kinds that are appropriate to different sorts of jobs in different sorts of countries.



Below are a couple of programs.



http://www.msubillings.edu/catalogs/Undergrad09-11/pg171.htm

http://www.viu.ca/calendar/Education/postbaccalaureatefulltime.asp
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to dealing with the OP.

Her biggest hurdle will be the various immigration offices and her passport.

In MOST CASES and person who is not considered a "Native Speaker" would require a related degree (English, Education, or similar) to be granted a work visa as a teacher of English outside their home country.

Coming from India she would have other issues to deal with as well, not the least of which is racism.

By and large she is NOT able to work (as a teacher) LEGALLY in the EU, North America, or most parts of Asia since her degrees are not related AND she is not a native speaker. Adding a CELTA won't make any difference.

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denise



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Middle East varies... Oman isn't too restricting, compared to other places... And there are lots of Indian teachers here. Some places apparently give lower salaries to different nationalities, though. Sad

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tina20



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks...this thread has been of great help.

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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered teaching in your native land? No visa hassles, the schools should like that. You seem to have an excellent grasp of the language. You would gain experience without all of the attendant "foreigner" nonsense. Get a little time under your belt and then throw yourself in international waters.
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tina20



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
Have you considered teaching in your native land? No visa hassles, the schools should like that. You seem to have an excellent grasp of the language. You would gain experience without all of the attendant "foreigner" nonsense. Get a little time under your belt and then throw yourself in international waters.

I just wanted to know what my options are, if any, vis-a-vis teaching abroad. Hence, this thread.


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