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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: 40 Years On Reply with quote

I first came to KSA as a teacher in October 1970. 40 years on I am still here.

I have not spent the forty years here but taught in other places too. I know of at least 2 other teachers still here who came on that Saudi Government programme that recruited British teachers to work in secondary and intermediate schools.

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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

40 years of teaching...any regrets upon reflection?
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007



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 40 Years On Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
I first came to KSA as a teacher in October 1970. 40 years on I am still here.

I have not spent the forty years here but taught in other places too. I know of at least 2 other teachers still here who came on that Saudi Government programme that recruited British teachers to work in secondary and intermediate schools.

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Well, Uncle Scott, I will ask Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II to reward you with the Elizabeth Golden Pen for your sacrifice, contribution and propagation of her Majesty's English language in the Magic Kingdom and the developing world!! Laughing

Uncle Scott, after spending 40 years as an English teacher, in which some of them were/are in the Magic Kingdom, what advice can you give to the new generation of English teachers who are teaching in the Magic Kingdom?

Also, if you were given the chance to go back, are you going to do the same (going to the Magic Kingdom and working there), or change your profession from teaching English to another more rewarding profession? Any thoughts? Laughing
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I could get a job controlling the cat population. I have some excellent ideas on that front.
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Kipling



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: The Dog beneath the Skin.............. Reply with quote

Mr Bond wrote
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I will ask Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II to reward you with the Elizabeth Golden Pen for your sacrifice, contribution and propagation of her Majesty's English language in the Magic Kingdom and the developing world!!

Not so sure our favourite canine would accept a dong from a sassenach queen these days.
But I digress.
SIR, hats off for the longitude and the servitude to the profession (Bows low)
1970 eh....long hair...down to here...... Cream, Zepplin,
Van der Graf Generator, Marmelade,Pickety Witch, Lieutenant Pigeon, CAPTAIN BEEFHEART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Electricityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!

Agghh Maan, it's' Bringing it all back Home.

Fare Forward Voyager

Mr K
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comments?

My comment is that you could have stayed here for just 4 years and made the same money that you made here in 40 years! (let's say you were here the whole time)

One of my friends works at NCB and he told me about some of the British and American hotshots at the bank. One of them earns SR. 150,000/month. So that's 10 times what you earn. Another (the CIO) earns SR. 450,000/month. Yes, you read that right. That's a million quid, or actually equivalent to a 2 million quid salary in the UK taking taxes and cost of living into account Shocked.

One of them is an ex-teacher (French & Spanish) from Wales who moved into banking some years ago (he doesn't have any specialized education for banking/finance)... and he gets SR. 65,000/month. That's 4 times yours, with the same education as you have.

Now... do you have any comments? Razz
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007



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be gentle on Uncle Scott, we do not want him to get a heart attack in the Magic Kingdom! Laughing

It seems Uncle scott is not good at banking operations, he has some excellent ideas on how to control the cat population!! Laughing
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, in that case, congratulations Scot! BTW, how many of those 40 years in the Kingdom of Humanity?

I shall be making an identical thread in 2043 Cool.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapezius wrote:
OK, in that case, congratulations Scot! BTW, how many of those 40 years in the Kingdom of Humanity?

I shall be making an identical thread in 2043 Cool.


Go figure. Giving numbers to a mathematics-ician is like giving raw meat to a lion.

Grendal BA Eng. Lit.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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k. One of them earns SR. 150,000/month. So that's 10 times what you earn
And he'd earn ten times a teachers salary in the UK or US. Your point?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I praise the LORD that I doi not earn my daily bread through USURY and MONEYLENDING, for these are the ways of SATAN !
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Taiwanlight Zone



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re banker's salaries, and he could be in the US/UK on the dole because he was made redundant because his company collapsed due to the crisis caused by bankers, many of whom it is reported still draw fat salaries and bonuses and sleep quite soundly at night, thank you very much.

Scott, I've looked back a few pages and I'm curious as to what has changed your retirement plans (if you don't want to say I of course understand.

I've also got to ask the question: what was the attraction of the Middle East all these years? Just the money (relatively speaking)? Or was there anything else to pull you back? Or - no offense intended - did you just get in a rut (I could see how someone could get established and comfortable especially as time went on)? Were you never tempted to try pastures new (I mean somewhere different to the Middle East)?.Life is pretty restricted especially in KSA (although I know there are ways to minimise that!).
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my post I explained that I have worked in other countries. Salaries in KSA are still higher than elsewhere and that is why I have kept on returning. My retirement plans are not changed. 2011 or 2012.

As for life being restrictive in KSA, what do you mean ? No booze and no bimbos ?
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's GOOD NEWS, scot...this being 1431... Very Happy

NCTBA
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

16 out of those 40 years were spent in KSA. The others in Scotland, Germany, Bulgaria, Zambia and Nigeria. The only time I was paid enough money to live like a gentleman was in the Kingdom of Humanity. It may a Faustian deal but it can be quite sweet.

As for "1431" I will leave the calculations of the Moorish calendar to heretics and apostates. I utilise the calendar approved by Gregory when he was Vicar of Rome.

And as for awards, I am not in the habit of accepting trinkets and baubles from Kings and Queens.
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