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cassava



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redsnapper wrote:
Anyone considering working for Hail should pull out a map before they sign on the dotted line.


Hail is out in the middle of nowhere in probably the most conservative sector of an already overly conservative KSA.


I think that you should be careful that your hyperbole does not create the wrong impression. If Hail is "in the middle of nowhere", how would you describe the location of the Rub' al Khali? Those of us who have been to both places doubtlessly know that the latter is far more isolated than the former. In fact, many small towns in Saudi Arabia are located in areas that are much more remote than Hail.

Potential teachers for the University of Hail should know that the air in Hail region is clean and fresh unlike the toxic mess that one finds in most North American cities. They should also know that the people of Hail are unfailingly polite and friendly and that the general atmosphere is one of quietness and tranquility.

Obviously, Hail is not the best place for someone who wants bright lights, constant merriment and a fast-paced lifestyle. In addition, there are no beaches, fancy restaurants or elegant boutiques.

I believe it is important that prospective teachers for the UOH should have as fair and as balanced a picture as possible so that they can make an informed decision.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Dim Lights, Small City Reply with quote

Well, after all, Utopia means Nowhere, so for some, at least, being in the middle of Nowhere might be Utopia.

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John
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redsnapper



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Dim Lights, Small City Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Well, after all, Utopia means Nowhere, so for some, at least, being in the middle of Nowhere might be Utopia.

Regards,
John



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capthappy20002000



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Railway3 wrote:
I have been working for UoH for since last December and I have been getting that 15% with my salary all the time although it is not mentioned on my contract paper. Everyone gets it (not sure for those who works via agencies)


Can you describe your experience at U of H briefly...pros and cons?
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capthappy20002000



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cassava wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Anyone considering working for Hail should pull out a map before they sign on the dotted line.


Hail is out in the middle of nowhere in probably the most conservative sector of an already overly conservative KSA.


I think that you should be careful that your hyperbole does not create the wrong impression. If Hail is "in the middle of nowhere", how would you describe the location of the Rub' al Khali? Those of us who have been to both places doubtlessly know that the latter is far more isolated than the former. In fact, many small towns in Saudi Arabia are located in areas that are much more remote than Hail.

Potential teachers for the University of Hail should know that the air in Hail region is clean and fresh unlike the toxic mess that one finds in most North American cities. They should also know that the people of Hail are unfailingly polite and friendly and that the general atmosphere is one of quietness and tranquility.

Obviously, Hail is not the best place for someone who wants bright lights, constant merriment and a fast-paced lifestyle. In addition, there are no beaches, fancy restaurants or elegant boutiques.

I believe it is important that prospective teachers for the UOH should have as fair and as balanced a picture as possible so that they can make an informed decision.


Are there restaurants and fitness clubs?
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cassava mentioned there were regular /plain restaurants...nothing fancy...fitness clubs? Take the stairs? Rolling Eyes
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capthappy20002000



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmp45 wrote:
Cassava mentioned there were regular /plain restaurants...nothing fancy...fitness clubs? Take the stairs? Rolling Eyes
Thanks for the info.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Fitness Clubs" are found in Jeddah, Riyadh and Khobar. Not as far as I know in the smaller towns and provincial centres.

I have a feeling that you can eat without using restaurants and that you can keep fit without heading for a "Fitness Club".
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a nice sports and fitness club in Ha'il, forgot what it is called. Didn't go inside it, but looked nice from outside.

According to this site, there are more than a few:

http://saudiarabia.yoolk.com/sports-and-recreation/sports-clubs/

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"Fitness Clubs" are found in Jeddah, Riyadh and Khobar. Not as far as I know in the smaller towns and provincial centres.


Hail is not so small that it wouldn't have a fitness club. If a city in Saudi has an airport, you can assume it has at least one health club, one mall, and one big grocery store.
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They should also know that the people of Hail are unfailingly polite and friendly and that the general atmosphere is one of quietness and tranquility.


I'm not sure they're all so friendly. I mean, not all of the young 'shebabs' are keen to show expat women their private parts and make friendly suggestions of an intimate nature. Just some! Twisted Evil

No beaches in Hail? C'mon, there's a huge beach. Just that it's a bit of a walk down to the water's edge ...

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capthappy20002000



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapezius wrote:
There is a nice sports and fitness club in Ha'il, forgot what it is called. Didn't go inside it, but looked nice from outside.

According to this site, there are more than a few:

http://saudiarabia.yoolk.com/sports-and-recreation/sports-clubs/

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"Fitness Clubs" are found in Jeddah, Riyadh and Khobar. Not as far as I know in the smaller towns and provincial centres.


Hail is not so small that it wouldn't have a fitness club. If a city in Saudi has an airport, you can assume it has at least one health club, one mall, and one big grocery store.


Wicked! Thanks!!!!!!!!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear UoH is always looking for teachers. COMMENTS ?

Where would you rather be ? Eastern Province at 10,000 SR a month or UoH at 17,000 ???
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svatopluk



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cassava wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Anyone considering working for Hail should pull out a map before they sign on the dotted line.


Hail is out in the middle of nowhere in probably the most conservative sector of an already overly conservative KSA.


I think that you should be careful that your hyperbole does not create the wrong impression. If Hail is "in the middle of nowhere", how would you describe the location of the Rub' al Khali? Those of us who have been to both places doubtlessly know that the latter is far more isolated than the former. In fact, many small towns in Saudi Arabia are located in areas that are much more remote than Hail.

Potential teachers for the University of Hail should know that the air in Hail region is clean and fresh unlike the toxic mess that one finds in most North American cities. They should also know that the people of Hail are unfailingly polite and friendly and that the general atmosphere is one of quietness and tranquility.

Obviously, Hail is not the best place for someone who wants bright lights, constant merriment and a fast-paced lifestyle. In addition, there are no beaches, fancy restaurants or elegant boutiques.

I believe it is important that prospective teachers for the UOH should have as fair and as balanced a picture as possible so that they can make an informed decision.


What about the local Sheilas? Are they go-ers?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I specially recommend the local discos.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But be warned that they will not hire grey-beards ! There is an age-limit !
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