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Zero
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Shanghai is a world-class city. It is dynamic, fast-paced, up-and-about, etc., etc. Why compare Shanghai to Taipei? It's like comparing New York to Salt Lake City or London to Bristol, or something like that.. Shanghai belongs to that special group of cities in the world that are really and truly world-class -- London, Paris, New York, Buenos Aires, etc,., etc. Even Tokyo pales in comparison to Shanghai. It's just the same as New York -- it's a city that never, ever sleeps. You could can do just about anything you want, or go anywhere you want, or go shopping even late at night in Shanghai. It's a frenetic mixture of Art Deco and modern urban trash, no question about it. It's got the best hospitals in China, and at least one of the best of the hospitals in the world. It's like in New York insofar as that if one is a bleery-eyed, still quite green little provincial, it could roll right over you in a Shanghai-minute. But if you can keep up with the pace, and if you like variety, true variety, and if you want to live life to the fullest, then there is no city in China like Shanghai.
Hangzhou is a rather pretty, sometimes quaint, sometimes not overrated provincial tourist trap. It is very, very laid back, compared to Shanghai, however, and if the OP comes from a smaller city in his or her own country, then the transition to Hangzhou might be easier than the transition to Shanghai.
When I think of Shanghai, I think of what Johnson wrote about London three hundred years ago. If you love life, then you will love Shanghai. |
Somebody's been drinking the Kool-Aid. Shanghai is a hole compared with the world-class cities mentioned. Maybe 30 years from now. Perhaps you haven't traveled much? |
No forgive me, Zero, you are correct. I have probably only logged 250,000 kilometers or so in my travels over the course of my lifetime. I have enough frequent flier miles for at least 3 lifetimes. I have been to, and either lived in, or have stayed for a long time in every city that I have mentioned. As for the Kool-Aid remark, sorry, but that drink is just TOO North American smalltown for me. Never touch it.
Now, since you like to make glib remarks all over this Board, what's your story? |
Maybe if your criteria is nightclubs it is world-class. I wouldn't know. As far as overall cities, uh, no.
Not sure what is wrong with smalltown North America or provincial places, either. At least they tend to be clean. |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China
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| Not sure what is wrong with smalltown North America or provincial places, either. At least they tend to be clean. |
There was a frequent poster on here several months ago (before Xiao51's time) who was fond of lambasting me for coming from a small midwest town in the USA. This poster was from NEW YORK CITY so knew everything about everything. But back to the main topic. If I had to choose between Shanghai or Hangzhou, I'd choose Hangzhou hands down. It's close enough to Shanghai for frequent jaunts if I choose to do so, but has a more intimate feel to it (much like my beloved? Suzhou). I actually lived in Hangzhou for two years. I didn't hate it by any means, but I rarely go back for a visit now because most of my friends (co-teachers, former students) that I made there are long gone and I've seen all the lovely tourist locales. Also, there's nothing there that I can't find here in Suzhou. |
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Zero
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| I definitely prefer the second- and third-tier cities, whether it be in China or the U.S. I like the lower cost of living. In the largest cities, you are a paying a premium for ... what? You end up not being able to save any money because you're spending it all on some supposed "X factor" that large cities are said to have. Nightclubs, i guess? Not my thing, sorry. New York would be a nightmare for me. |
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Cousin Vinnie
Joined: 17 Oct 2010
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Even though I was born, grew up and went to school in NYC, I prefer the smaller towns now.
Besides Hawaii, Asheville, NC seems like a nice place to retire. I still have my eye on Las Vegas for a few last kicks, then Durango, Colorado.
As for China - Zhaoqing appeals to me. |
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