|
Job Discussion Forums "The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
|
View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
sheikher
Joined: 13 Jul 2009 Posts: 291
|
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: Recruitment agents: the horror |
|
|
BIRTH PAINS 101: IN ENGLISH
Much has been made of recent increased funding of higher education across the Kingdom. The most notable riyal recipient is the acclaimed spanking new KAUST campus, an architectural and high-tech marvel attracting myriad local and international students to quality instruction in co-ed lecture halls and labs.
Global glory, laud and honor continue to be lavished upon King Abdullah for his remarkable achievements, and admonishments for advancement toward world-class accreditation of this crucial, primarily public, sector. Quite frankly, it is meet and right so to do � as in all of the above: fund, reform, achieve, laud.
Are media�s songs of praise truly warranted? Yes!
Yet, higher education is witnessing the sudden proliferation of Preparatory Year Programs. Institutionalized as �pre-freshman� semesters, these serve to augment select high school curricula to assess whether students have the motivation, the abilities, to survive academic rigors inherent in longer term undergraduate endeavors.
An internationally popular website for foreign teachers of English language reveals the extent to which corruption embraces aspects of these programs within many universities Kingdom-wide, some quite prominent.
The ESL website provides anecdotal evidence of foreign teachers unwittingly, knowingly, willingly, enthusiastically implicated in contract and visa scams. Recruitment agents and campuses are named. These agents, many in collusion with outsourced overseas headhunters, offer illegal contracts and a variety of visas that prohibit salaried employment in KSA. I refer to 3-month business visit visas, tourist visas, and even visas specifying sponsorship of blue-collar workers. These same recruitment and English-course suppliers appoint on-site supervisors inexperienced in human resources, curriculum implementation, and assessment. Academic fraud abounds.
Aspirants, and successful candidates, with evident glee brazenly mock Labor laws and Interior�s Iqama regulations, thus lending credence to their sponsors� nefarious machinations to urgently fulfill contractual obligations signed by university administrators. Evidence on the website points to teachers applying under false pretenses: transcripts, health checks, and criminal records. This despite advice from �seasoned KSAers� to proceed with extreme caution or, better, cease interest and apply elsewhere.
Intermingled with concerns related to women�s safety, health insurance, accommodation quality, security, cultural norms, curriculum implementation, and dysfunctional personnel management styles, there are also inquiries regarding how best to �escape�, the availability of alcohol and drugs, and accessibility to sex, both hetero and otherwise. Then there�s the weekend escapades to Manama�s hotspots. How to avoid re-entry illegal-visa detection?
Saudi Arabia�s higher education sector currently enjoys an abundance of recruitment agents well attuned to opportunism�s whisper. Many are accustomed to managing blue-collar personnel; the results are predictable. Others express intentions to construct private on-campus colleges with their name prominently displayed at Gate 1.
A 24-page corruption report commissioned by, and submitted to, relevant authorities 18 months ago concludes: It would serve the best interests of [students] if recruitment and management of foreign teachers, and curriculum selection and implementation, were the direct, singular, responsibility of competent [university administration] personnel. Recent experience demonstrates that middlemen are using nefarious means by which to secure teachers and maintain their residency, and additionally implement curricula sometimes inappropriate to the academic needs and cultural proclivities of the students.
Recent reports in the media indicate that KSA�s education sector is to receive a considerable increase in funding as an impetus to achieve world-class education�The Gulf is generally considered to be a boon opportunity, lucrative for ESL teachers seeking alternatives from their existing overseas postings. Indeed, Saudi Arabia may well experience within the next few years a considerable influx of foreign teachers presently dissatisfied with low salaries and atrocious working conditions primarily in East Asia. Teacher recruitment agents, and their consortiums with overseas institutions, will abound. I have no doubt that many will attempt, as so many already do, to circumvent regulations to their own pecuniary advantage. I trust that the Government of Saudi Arabia seeks to engage more effective proactive measures to monitor and enforce government statutory law.
Advancement and accreditation? A matter of, quite simply, integrity.
� Saudi Gazette __
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentID=2010102986361 |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
|
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
One of the big changes that appears to have taken place in KSA over the last few years is the propensity for hiring cheap, poorly qualified and/or inexperienced EFL teachers, whose experience is confined to teaching conversation in east Asia, and who know nothing about the needs of the Gulf student.
The motive appears to be simple: teachers who are accustomed to lousy conditions and pay elsewhere, will be more likely to accept the slightly less awful conditions imposed by unscrupulous Saudi recruiters and contractors, without a whimper. Those unscrupulous operators want compliant, not complaint! The teachers in question accept the poor pay and miseable conditions for a number of reasons:
- They know nothing about how Saudi works, and are therefore more exploitable
- Many of them are very happy to have anything that beats their previous job
- Because of poor (or no) quals and experience, some are glad to have any job in KSA
This does not mean that someone who has taught conversation in Asia couldn't make a good teacher in KSA. Of course they can; however, they need proper training and induction, just as a KSA teacher moving to Asia would. Saudi Arabia and Korea or China for example, are simply two different teaching/learning environments, where vastly different needs, methodologies, materials and cultural considerations apply.
It's all a question of appropriate deployment and training, not to mention good HR. If you hire poorly-trained teachers with inadequate or inappropriate experience, allocate them to roles inappropriately with regard to their strengths and weaknesses, and then treat them badly on top of all that, what do you get?
You get what the Saudi Gazette article was referring to, namely the fiasco that is many Saudi PYPs.
It would be wrong, however, to place all the blame on the middlemen and on their recruitment and HR practices. Within the PYP academic management structures, there are also serious flaws, which in themselves are fatal to a PYPs success. One of these, I believe is that PYP English (and other) management is all too frequently recruited on the bases of higher but utterly inappropriate academic degrees, without regard to their understanding of ELT, or their management abilities and skills. Wasta, sadly, is also a factor not to be underestimated in placing management personnel.
The effect of poor placement is academic managers who are incompetent. This would be bad enough in itself. The problem is often compounded, however, by the fact that they may be fully aware of their incompetence. To cover for this inadequacy, they resort to blame, nepotism, discrediting and bullying, to the extent that those of their more competent and experienced colleagues who recognize their incompetence, are either unjustly fired or forced to leave. Those who support them remain, and so the cycle continues.
Saudi students deserve better than that, don't they? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
|
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Magic Kingdom EFL hiring: Garbage in, Garbage out!  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
|
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
Saudi students deserve better than that, don't they? |
They do, but with very few exceptions, they do not demand any better. This, I think is for two reasons, which are not mutually exclusive:
1) They know no better, having, for the most part, never experienced a superior education system.
2) They're quite content with things the way they are. After all, the set-up in most unis - though boring, irrelevant and generally krappy - is easy for the students. At the end of the day, that's all the majority of them seem to care about. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
|
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It's chicken and egg, really, isn't it! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
|
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The decision to provide so much through the medium of English has been disastrous. Very rapid expansion of universities has also had a very bad effect. KSA does not need armies of unemployed and unemployable Graduates in the Humanities and Social Sciences. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
|
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
...who have been awarded degrees through the medium of English, although their standard of English as such is that of a native speaker at primary school level! Not their fault, but that of the dismal PYP standards to which they are often subjected. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
|
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
Not their fault, but that of the dismal PYP standards to which they are often subjected. |
The fault is not of the bridge between K-12 and tertiary education (i.e., the foundation year programs)... you can't expect a non-native speaker of a poor standard to learn enough English in one year to be able to do tertiary education in English, especially if s/he belong to a country with an alphabet not in Latin characters. Well, maybe a few can, but > 95% can't, no matter how great the foundation year programs are, and that's fact. So, for foundation year programs to be effective, they have to be several years long, not one year. That means that...
...the fault is that of the K-12 education system, or more appropriately, the fault is that of the different languages of instruction in the K-12 system and the tertiary system.
Only 2 ways to fix that:
1) If tertiary education has to be in English, teach English language throughout K-12, and ideally, some subjects in English as well. (12 year "foundation program")
2) But if K-12 has to be in Arabic, tertiary education should be in Arabic as well. (no foundation program)
You can't mix the two as they do now and hope to reconcile using the foundation year programs... that's stupid (and unrealistic). |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
youngglobetrotter
Joined: 13 Sep 2010 Posts: 6
|
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
scot47 wrote: |
The decision to provide so much through the medium of English has been disastrous. Very rapid expansion of universities has also had a very bad effect. KSA does not need armies of unemployed and unemployable Graduates in the Humanities and Social Sciences. |
I agree that Saudi does not need an army of dissatisfied college graduates that can not find work in their own country. This is the unfortunate situation in many of the Middle Eastern countries. Namely Egypt and obviously the Palestinian Territories. I am curious to know the trends of most Saudi graduates. Do many of them even go into the Humanities and Social Sciences? Do they stay in the country after graduation? I'm sure most have the resources to find something lucrative.
I went to an American university where we literally had over 100 Saudi students enroll in an English program to pass the TEFL exam to be admitted to the school. Most of them are doing or have completed degrees in computer science, engineering or medicine. None that I know of persued degrees in Humanities. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
|
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
Those who go overseas - to the US, Europe, Australia and Canada are usually funded by the Government in Riyadh. They tend to study "sensible" subjects that have job prospects. Universities in KSA teem with students doing "soft options". |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sheikher
Joined: 13 Jul 2009 Posts: 291
|
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
http://chronicle.com/article/Saudi-Arabias-Education/124771/ excerpt
In the past seven years, under King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia has spent lavishly on higher education. About a quarter of each yearly budget goes toward education and vocational training; this year's allocations, amounting to $36.5-billion, represent a 12.4-percent increase over those of 2009. The King Abdullah Scholarship Program has sent more than 90,000 Saudis to pursue graduate studies abroad. The number of public universities in the country has risen from eight to 24; a few of them now appear in world university rankings.
The development plan calls for nearly doubling the number of university students, from 860,000 to 1.7 million, by 2014. The king and his allies are serious about the need to improve and expand higher education, says John Sfakianakis, chief economist at Banque Saudi Fransi, who helped draft the plan. "They understand there is a problem that has to be fixed."
Many Saudi university students continue to pursue degrees in fields such as social studies, religious studies, history, and literature, despite the labor market's being saturated with social-science and humanities majors.
Mohammad Al-Ohali, deputy minister of educational affairs, says that is why the Ministry of Higher Education has placed "more emphasis in the last three or four years on technical, engineering, science and medical programs," as well as "fields of study related to the job market," such as administration and computer science. "These are the main focus of the new universities we have established," he says.
It may take a while, however, for students' expectations to line up with the new educational policies. The protest in front of the Education Ministry was organized by graduates of Arabic-language programs to demand teaching jobs in government schools. "Anyone who has a degree from a Saudi university aspires to a government job," says Mr. Sfakianakis. Government clerks earn around $1,500 a month, have job security, and, with the public sector's "relaxed working hours," can often take a second job, he adds.
While a job in public administration remains most Saudis' ideal, the country's private sector is overwhelmingly powered by the foreign workers who make up about a third of the country's 28 million residents. The government is imposing minimum quotas of Saudi employees on companies and decreeing that certain businesses, like gold shops, travel firms, and car dealerships, be staffed by Saudis. It considers this "Saudization" of the private sector necessary to limit dependence on foreign labor, create a more dynamic economy, and stanch rising unemployment.
But "one of the main issues that the private sector faces," says Mr. Sfakianakis, "is the fact that there aren't enough well-trained Saudis in the kind of jobs that are needed."
That holds true both for high-skilled jobs in finance, engineering, and medicine and for the service sector, where many Saudis are reluctant to take jobs as, say, taxi drivers or hotel receptionists, and expect higher salaries than those paid to expatriate workers.
"It is not the scarcity of jobs that is the biggest problem," says Mr. Al-Ohali. "It's a very complex problem related to people's habits, to people's culture."
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentID=2008091917654 excerpts
512 students called back from abroad
RIYADH � The Ministry of Higher Education has called back 512 students studying abroad and ejected them from the King�s Scholarship Program due to poor performances and frequent absences, Al-Hayat reported. To help address the issue of poor academic performances abroad, the ministry is organizing orientation courses for students before joining universities abroad...
Students complain
Nearly 90 percent of students sent on scholarships complained about the levels of stipends they receive...
False certificates
Maged Al-Harbi, director of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques Scholarship Program, said the education ministry had discovered false certificates submitted by applicants for the King�s Scholarships Program... |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
|
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
...you can't expect a non-native speaker of a poor standard to learn enough English in one year to be able to do tertiary education in English, especially if s/he belong to a country with an alphabet not in Latin characters. Well, maybe a few can, but > 95% can't, no matter how great the foundation year programs are, and that's fact. |
That's the whole point, Trapezius. You can't expect student who are taught through the medium of Arabic most of their young lives to suddenly be able to handle 3rd level academic courses through English. As you suggest, they either do the whole K12 programme through English as well, or else just study at 3rd level through Arabic also.
Having said that, however, and notwithstanding the unrealistic expectations of a PYP, the fact remains that many PYPs are sub-standard, and have become a financial bandwagon for many. If you're going to rely on a PYP to get students up to a realistic level of English, who haven't had a K12 English programme, then all the more reason to ensure that the PYP is of the highest quality. That, in many Saudi institutions at present, is far from being the case.
Also, what about a two-year PYP? Many students don't want this, I know, although they need it. This is the biggest challenge of education: what the customer wants and what he needs are not always the same, and are often directly at odds with each other. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
|
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Bebsi
The "customer" is most definitely not the student. The bill is pickled up by the Ministry in Riyadh ! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
|
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
Also, what about a two-year PYP? |
Or what about having the students study in their own language, just like the vast majority of students the world over?
Quote: |
If you're going to rely on a PYP to get students up to a realistic level of English, who haven't had a K12 English programme, then all the more reason to ensure that the PYP is of the highest quality. |
Yes, and in addition:
1) Don't accept students whose English is below upper-intermediate level. Foundation programmes are designed to 'fine tune' a student's already high-level English skills to prepare them for the academic world. They are not - or should not be - about teaching the Present Perfect or basic sentence structure. However, since my suggestion above would involve universities having to turn away about 90% of their potential students, it is a non-starter.
2) Allow students to fail. The problem is that just as governments judge some banks or businesses as 'too big to fail', so too many Saudi unis refuse to fail more than a small number of students. For administrators and teachers alike, the massive headaches involved with having to deal with the persistent appeals from failed students - along with their parents and often upper management too - become just too much. So you just dumb down the exams and let almost everyone pass. After all, at the end of the day it's their education system and their future workforce, and if they are not concerned about non-existent standards, why should we be? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sheikher
Joined: 13 Jul 2009 Posts: 291
|
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
And over in UAE:
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/education/universities-have-taken-wrong-turn-scholar-says excerpt
Universities have taken wrong turn, scholar says
ABU DHABI // The higher education system has been commercialised and is driven by market demands, according to an academic speaking at an education conference in the capital yesterday.
Dr Mick Randall, a consultant and former dean of education at the British University in Dubai, said that the role of education is to develop the individual, but that the system has become a "slave to industry", merely providing workers. The result, he said, is that subjects that develop well-rounded individuals, including philosophy, maths and science, have suffered.
"The free market will produce a good result, better than anyone at the ministries can, but what are the results?" said Dr Randall to an audience attending Education in the UAE, which was held at the Emirates Centre for Strategic Studies and Research.
"One of the dangers of the commercialisation of education is that people don't look at the long term." He said the system is focusing too narrowly on a handful of subjects driven by the market economy, a system that will not be sustainable.
As an example, Dr Randall pointed to... |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling. Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|