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MA in Ed. TESOL - What kind of job market?
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schools in the states still maintain the outdated agrarian "summer break." average leave averages around 15 weeks out of the year.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I see. Not bad!
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fifteen weeks might be stretching things a bit. I think it's more like 10 or 11 weeks of summer vacation these days for public school teachers in the States.
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
Fifteen weeks might be stretching things a bit. I think it's more like 10 or 11 weeks of summer vacation these days for public school teachers in the States.


I meant fifteen total, not just summer. Schools might have 10-11 weeks summer vacation, but also a week at Thanksgiving, a couple weeks for Christmas, and another week for Spring Break.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only remember getting off two days for Thanksgiving, two days for Easter, and maybe a week for Christmas, but that was a long time ago!
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Isla Guppa,

Santa Fe, NM Public Schools:

Aug. 23 - school starts

Nov. 24 � 26 Thanksgiving Break (3 days)

Dec. 20 � 31 Winter Break (10 days - not counting weekends)

March 7 � 11 Spring Break (5 days)

May 28 - school ends

So, 18 days - plus the holidays. of course

Regards,
John
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: MA in Ed. TESOL - What kind of job market? Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
And you should quit quoting out of context.
Excuse me? You wrote:

"You would be classed as experienced and prefered at the secondary school level BUT you are still only entry level at the university lecturer stage"

I'm sorry, ttompatz, but those qualifications don't make someone entry level for most uni work in Japan.

Matt_22 wrote:
I'm not sure how interested I am in university gigs overseas - just trying to guage what's out there. From what I can gather, Japan seems like the best place for uni work, but it appears that you have to be a "lifer" who at least speaks decent Japanese - not a good fit for me.
"Best place for uni work"? How did you figure that? Most uni teachers here in Japan are PT workers. Most of the others are FT but live on 3-year contracts that might be renewed once. Expect 20-100 applicants for almost every opening. Minimum qualifications have been described and discussed on this and other forums ad nauseum. I'd suggest looking at the FAQ sticky for links to lots more related info.

You don't have to be a "lifer" or speak "decent Japanese". The latter obviously helps immensely, but I know tons of uni teachers here who are only marginally conversational.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
Understand that "experience" garnered at hogwans and eikaiwas are not considered "experience" to the ones who:
pay a good salary
offer round-trip airfares for employee and family
put you into a furnished flat or villa w/CCTV and placed on a compound with recreation facilities
pay for your children's schooling either in whole or a large chunk
give you free medical
pay for your utilities
give you a shipping allowance and pay for the storage facility so you can store what you couldn't bring along
give you a company car and puts the petrol in it as well
Also, the definition of "international" is subject to change from place to place...

NCTBA

Darn, I thought I had a good job, but the only thing I have is a good salary and my airfare.


It only comes with the right Masters + the experience and is earned in a place on the earth that you could fry an egg on the back of yer neck 7-8 months outta da year!

NCTBA
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
Understand that "experience" garnered at hogwans and eikaiwas are not considered "experience" to the ones who:
pay a good salary
offer round-trip airfares for employee and family
put you into a furnished flat or villa w/CCTV and placed on a compound with recreation facilities
pay for your children's schooling either in whole or a large chunk
give you free medical
pay for your utilities
give you a shipping allowance and pay for the storage facility so you can store what you couldn't bring along
give you a company car and puts the petrol in it as well
Also, the definition of "international" is subject to change from place to place...

NCTBA

Darn, I thought I had a good job, but the only thing I have is a good salary and my airfare.


It only comes with the right Masters + the experience and is earned in a place on the earth that you could fry an egg on the back of yer neck 7-8 months outta da year!

NCTBA

Got the MAs and experience, this is my 5th year at a uni and I'm not even 30 Smile ! However, my husband has no desire to go to the ME
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Best place for uni work"? How did you figure that? Most uni teachers here in Japan are PT workers. Most of the others are FT but live on 3-year contracts that might be renewed once. Expect 20-100 applicants for almost every opening. Minimum qualifications have been described and discussed on this and other forums ad nauseum. I'd suggest looking at the FAQ sticky for links to lots more related info.

You don't have to be a "lifer" or speak "decent Japanese". The latter obviously helps immensely, but I know tons of uni teachers here who are only marginally conversational.


As Glenski implied, if you're already here with experience teaching in university, it's easier to get other uni work. If you've just arrived in Japan with no experience, it will be pretty competitve.

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Depends where abroad. We get tonnes here in Europe (I'm currently enjoying 11 weeks paid holiday).


Uni part-timers in Japan get about 20 weeks of paid vacation per year.

Spiral78, on a side note, I thought you were out of a job now? Is it a late congrats on finding a new job or are you enjoying paid vacation time from the last job?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After my resignation went into effect, I still had eleven weeks of accumulated holiday left. I'm on paid holiday through the end of December.
Next year - who knows?
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