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[HiddenTreasure]

[xiao51]

Let's return to the essentials around here, shall we, and refrain from the invective please.

First to YMMV, with whom I frequently spar, thank you for the link confirming what I had written in regard of the letter of release. That is a non-negotiable.

Now, let me explain to you, based upon my conversations with the PSB, on how the actual matter works. Should a foreign teacher leave an employer at the end of a contracted period, and no letter of release be provided, and should a new employer wish to hire this employer, generally speaking, and I stress generally speaking, the new employer will make all of these representations to the PSB, usually to the Section Head, not to the intake clerk at the front take. The PSB then, generally speaking, gives the applicant a 30-day, one-time renewable in-country F visa while the matter is sorted out. The PSB may, and often actually does, intervene with the previous employer and if no heinous crime of the most serious order has been committed, the PSB can actually order the previous employer to produce a letter of release. That is the law. Mind you, however, this is China. Should the ex-employer have considerable pull at the local PSB, then this will not happen. I have seen, however, that in most cases with which I am personally familiar, the intervention of the PSB is enough to secure a letter of release.

Should the production of a letter of release require more than the 30-day term of the F visa, a one-time extension may be granted. Should the employer absolutely refuse to produce a letter of release, for no other reason except for absolute obduracy, then the PSB can, in some circumstances, negotiated around this obstacle.

The PSB is highly, highly computerized and "hiding" FT jobs in China is just not possible these days.

[igorG]

I really don't know how "highly computerized" local PSB offices are, but it's quite believable "hiding FTs jobs" on mainland is not as easy as 10 years back. Local employers, however, can still hide skeletons in their closets as easy as before, can't they? I can't imagine how difficult that'd be to take any action against any local uni that's supported by the local government officials too. We just have to give our employers a bit of smile in the last few weeks or months of our employment commitment, don't we?

[xiao51]

[HiddenTreasure]

[ymmv]

[Teatime of Soul]

My experience and understanding of the situation mirrors Xiao51's post regarding the PSB and obdurate employers.

Now, in some rare cases, nothing may work. But that hardly makes the case for forging documents or working illegally.

[DixieCat]

[Teatime of Soul]

[DixieCat]

Advice on hydrology might be safe, because, as the Chinese say, "There's a lot of water in what you post".

[xiao51]