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Recruitment agents: the horror
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John Carpenter



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: M.O.D.A. Reply with quote

Have any of you heard of MODA? It seems to be a player that is being bandied about, and not always in a positive light.
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sheikher



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Mr Carpenter, that somehow rings a bell.

Rumour has it that MODA is a recruitment agency established by a few PMU administrators. In other words, an "internal" PMU agency that is external to PMU's human resources department.

Obviously these scoundrels are skimming their percentage off the funding grants awarded by King Abdullah. I doubt that their little enterprise is registered as a business with the local Chamber of Commerce. That requires investigation.

Did anyone say Conflict of interest?

Would anyone in the know care to confirm this rumour?
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Daddyo



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you know some place where an ESL teacher can make the best part of 3000 Euros a month - tax and rentfree and with 45-60 days paid holiday a year - do please let me know.


Sure! Shoot me fifteen grand and I'll do a proper study ...
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daddyo wrote:
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If you know some place where an ESL teacher can make the best part of 3000 Euros a month - tax and rentfree and with 45-60 days paid holiday a year - do please let me know.


Sure! Shoot me fifteen grand and I'll do a proper study ...
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Not likely... prefer to hire experts.

Why exactly are you posting on this thread? Is it just to troll and pick fights with people?

VS
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Am I GLAD that I took a coupla days off! (Yeah, right, I know the rest of you feel the same way!)

NCTBA
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Daddyo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Daddyo wrote:
Quote:
If you know some place where an ESL teacher can make the best part of 3000 Euros a month - tax and rentfree and with 45-60 days paid holiday a year - do please let me know.


Sure! Shoot me fifteen grand and I'll do a proper study ...
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Not likely... prefer to hire experts.

Why exactly are you posting on this thread? Is it just to troll and pick fights with people?

VS


Humbug,
So are you guys on the level or just grousing? And if they're going to featherbed higher education, as that newspaper clipping stated, will there also be a concerted effort to boost English language proficiency across the land, and a subsequent relaxation of visa requirements to accomodate more teachers? C'mon, look into your crystal ball ...
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isabel



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Location: God's green earth

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daddyo wrote:
veiledsentiments wrote:
Daddyo wrote:
Quote:
If you know some place where an ESL teacher can make the best part of 3000 Euros a month - tax and rentfree and with 45-60 days paid holiday a year - do please let me know.


Sure! Shoot me fifteen grand and I'll do a proper study ...
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Not likely... prefer to hire experts.

Why exactly are you posting on this thread? Is it just to troll and pick fights with people?

VS


Humbug,
So are you guys on the level or just grousing? And another question, if the govenrment is going to featherbed higher education, will there also be a concerted effort to boost English language proficiency across the land, and a subsequent relaxation of visa requirements to accomodate more teachers? C'mon, look into your crystal ball ...
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Yeah, no. Sorry. Any new monies will be distributed to the various and sundry royalties and hangers on. Improve English teaching? Why? Do you think the majority of administrators care a fig about English, or any other education? Relax visa requirements? Why? Now the administrators can f$%k with you every which way over visa issues. Do you think they want to lose that power?

"Let's start some new schools and recruiting agencies and line our pockets some more," is more likely the attitude. PMU is a perfect example. They've no more interest in education than the Pope has in Islam. It is a nice money machine and laundry. The prince gets richer, and the students and faculty struggle with nada.
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Daddyo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"Let's start some new schools and recruiting agencies and line our pockets some more," is more likely the attitude.


Yeah, that's pretty corrupt. Getting more that way everywhere I suppose. I'm just afraid the growing number of apparachiks will start recruiting talented amateurs, over-educated and under-employed volunteers, to create bigger margins. I've seen that happen elsewhere, in other industries.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daddyo wrote:
And if they're going to featherbed higher education, as that newspaper clipping stated, will there also be a concerted effort to boost English language proficiency across the land, and a subsequent relaxation of visa requirements to accomodate more teachers? C'mon, look into your crystal ball ...

If you knew anything about the Gulf, you wouldn't even have to ask. Whatever business there is exists for the purpose of sucking petrodollars out of the government in one way or another. We expats whether cleaners or teachers are there to facilitate it. At least we teachers benefit more than the cleaners.

VS
(PS... have you looked up the meaning of xenophobic yet so that you can properly apologize to JohnSlat for your bizarre accusation?)
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe Daddyo and eslgypsy could go in halfsies on the dictionary that both are severely lacking as racists and xenophobes should never be ignored...

NCTBA
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me ask Daddyo if he thinks the merchant bankers will be earaning leass as a result of the economic crisis.

Of course not - but they are all screaming that the rest of us have to pay for the failure of international finance capital. Where is my AK-47 ?

Arise, ye criminals of want !
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sure! Shoot me fifteen grand and I'll do a proper study ...


OK - thanks for admitting that you cannot think of a single country where a TEFL teacher's earning potential is on a par with the Gulf.
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007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isabel wrote:
They've no more interest in education than the Pope has in Islam.

Isabela, I prefer to change the above to:
"They've no more interest in education than Uncle Sam has in Democracy!" Laughing

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It is a nice money machine and laundry. The prince gets richer, and the students and faculty struggle with nada.

Yes, I agree 200% with you. The rich get richer and the gap between rich princes, princesses and poor English teachers is widening! Laughing
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johnslat



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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear 007,

And how's democracy doing in your homeland? Thriving?

Regards,
John
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Daddyo



Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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Location: Bogota, Colombia

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Let me ask Daddyo if he thinks the merchant bankers will be earaning leass as a result of the economic crisis.

Of course not - but they are all screaming that the rest of us have to pay for the failure of international finance capital. Where is my AK-47 ?

Arise, ye criminals of want !


Ha ha I love this thread, it's so hostile ...
I couldn't agree more with your sentiments, actually I think we should print and distribute a deck of cards featuring all the G20 central bankers, with Bernanke as the Ace of Spades.


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