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canadarocks
Joined: 08 Nov 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:20 am Post subject: Delter Telfort Suzhou, Jiangsu SCAM ALERT |
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I worked at Delter International Business Institute / college in Suzhou for about a month. This place also calls itself Delter Telfort. The location I worked at was on the campus of the Nanjing Institute of Railways Technology in Suzhou.
I researched on the Internet about this school and found nothing really positive and not much current. So let me start by saying that whatever negative things were written about Delter in the past, still stand true. This has got to be the WORST �educational� center in all of China.
To start 4 out of 5 of the foreign teachers quit within 9 weeks. Myself, A Canadian, an Australian, and a women from Britain all quit. Most gave no notice at all, just said goodbye as it is that bad. All teachers are cheated out of salary. Delter cheated me of over 1400 rmb in the first month and refused to pay me correctly. The Australian guy and other Canadian also got cheated. The British lady was too upset and just slipped away into the night � never said goodbye to anyone. They refuse to provide any type of tax receipt showing your wages and taxes taken out, so you never know how much they take out and pocket.
When we first started we were told that the school offered corporate training classes and they were considered extra duty and not mandatory so some teachers elected to do them and others not. When pay day came around no one got any extra pay and were told that they changed their mind and these are considered regular hours now.
Everyone works at Delter illegally. The school cannot obtain working visas for the teachers but of course tells everyone they can. So when you get here on a tourist visa, you are stuck and they tell you that YOU must pay for a trip to HongKong to get a Z visa and tell them that you work for the Nanjing campus of the Railway School.
When I got here I was promised a room at the school but everything was broken. The tv, dvd player, the water heater in the bathroom, nothing worked and they never fixed any of it so I could never live in the room as promised.
To Delter the contract means nothing. Most teachers never get a copy even though they ask repeatedly. The response is always that it�s in Nanjing and when it arrives we will get it. The school sent a representative from Shanghai and he told us let�s put it in perspective, Delter is only about making money, education is not a priority. Just entertain the students, and never fail any, even if they don�t pass the exam or attend class.
Maybe it�s not a surprise but the headmaster and her assistant are wholly incompetent and think nothing of lying openly to your face and scheduling you with as many classes as they can. Students complain about the high turnover of teachers � no one lasts a long time here.
If you are even remotely considering working at Delter you will regret it. At present the Suzhou campus at Delter has only 2 teachers instead of the 5 needed and those that come for an interview never accept the job. Take heed, this is not a sour grapes post at all, but it is and informative posting to tell you that DELTER is a scam and will only cheat it�s teachers and lie to them and when you leave � no one stays � they will find another sap to use and burn out.
I'll post more later... |
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The Great Wall of Whiner

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Let's hope enough people aren't gullible enough to take this job.
Thanks. |
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5h09un
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 140
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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what ended up happening with your visa? did you make that trip to HK? |
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west2east
Joined: 03 May 2009 Posts: 120 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Out of interest, if the balance of feedback on the internet was not favourable and with so many places with good feedback, despite the fact that the negative reviews were relatively old, what motivated you to sign?
My school is nothing short of excellent, but I know they have to work really hard at getting good teachers to prevent becoming understaffed. Where did your school advertise? |
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godisasadjoke
Joined: 11 Nov 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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What you are saying is that you willingly worked illegally? |
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seamallowance
Joined: 20 Apr 2010 Posts: 151 Location: Weishan, Jining, Shandong
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:36 am Post subject: |
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I think that godisajoke is just hiddentreasure under a new name. |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: |
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No, it's just stawberryfields under a new name (which was hiddentreasure under a new name!). |
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Guerciotti

Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 842 Location: In a sleazy bar killing all the bad guys.
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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seamallowance said: I think that godisajoke is just hiddentreasure under a new name.
kev7161 wrote: |
No, it's just stawberryfields under a new name (which was hiddentreasure under a new name!). |
Some people don't have much to do. I heard playing the guitar is a good hobby. Also, one could learn a new language! =D
I'm just sayin' ... |
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flyingscotsman

Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 339 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: |
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I work at a Delter location as well. No one here has a legal visa, all work on tourist visas and the school does promise to get working visas but never has for anyone. Not one teacher I ever met who worked at Delter had a real legal to work visa.
It seems Delter is a very transient place where teachers come for a month or two and then leave for something better. If you are really desperate then you will find it a place to crash in the same way that a flea-bag motel is better than sleeping on a park bench on a cold night. |
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brsmith15

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 1142 Location: New Hampshire USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:22 am Post subject: |
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In the late 1990s, with 2 locations, the school was outstanding: top-notch teachers -- many with master's degrees and even a few PhD's thrown in --from all over, great students, good faciliites, fair management. Then as time wore on, everything went into a steep nose dive. Teachers were hired if they could see lightning and hear thunder; in Shanghai, we had one 19 year-old kid "teacher" from Canada who slept with his mother!! Facilities went into disrepair. Pay was late. Management became predatory and all bottom-of-the-barrel Chinese whose only discernable skills were coming up with some of weirdest lies imaginable and pocketing an atrocious amount of cash. The woman in SH, a horror named Q___, I know for a fact pocketed $180,000 one year alone when I was DOS. I was in close with the accountant who'd been a former MBA student of mine when we had a partnership with Napier U in Edinburgh.
Today it IS at the bottom-most rung. My only amazement is that they can still sttract any students at all. And, yeah, if you need to get started here....no I won't even say that! |
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kungfuman
Joined: 31 May 2012 Posts: 1749 Location: In My Own Private Idaho
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:56 am Post subject: |
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recently I met a guy who works for Delter - Telfort in Suzhou. he shared some horror stories about the place.
I find it hard to believe people still go to work in these places. |
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