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Rooster_2006



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here we go:
http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=88682&start=10

As long as you give a valid reason, you can get a permit to go abroad valid for up to two years. Acceptable reasons include (but are not limited to) employment and education abroad. Presumably by the end of two years, you'd know whether you wanted to give up your APRC or not. Okay, that's a tad more reasonable...

Still, I think with cross-strait tensions and the extremely high likelihood that Taiwan will soon be part of China (and therefore subject to COMPLETELY different rules and regulations), I don't think I should stake the next 50 years of my life on this island, no matter how tropical, fun, and wonderful it may be right now. Plus Chinese/Taiwanese culture just doesn't get my motor running the way that Korean and Japanese culture do. Can't figure out why.
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adogadie



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rooster_2006 wrote:
And here we go:
http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=88682&start=10

As long as you give a valid reason, you can get a permit to go abroad valid for up to two years. Acceptable reasons include (but are not limited to) employment and education abroad. Presumably by the end of two years, you'd know whether you wanted to give up your APRC or not. Okay, that's a tad more reasonable...

Still, I think with cross-strait tensions and the extremely high likelihood that Taiwan will soon be part of China (and therefore subject to COMPLETELY different rules and regulations), I don't think I should stake the next 50 years of my life on this island, no matter how tropical, fun, and wonderful it may be right now. Plus Chinese/Taiwanese culture just doesn't get my motor running the way that Korean and Japanese culture do. Can't figure out why.
Thanks Rooster. That clears things up a bit.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Taiwan is funny. Actually, PR here (the APRC) doesn't seem to be that difficult -- just live here for five years and apply. The trouble is how easy it is to lose it -- if you go back to your country for 183 days out of a given calendar year, it's gone and you need to re-earn it! How harsh is that! I'm only 24, so I could easily have a midlife crisis when I'm 40, move back to America for a year or two, and come back to Taiwan to find that my whole life in Taiwan has been ruined because I lost my so-called "permanent" residency.


You can set up your own company and sponsor your own visa in Taiwan.
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creztor



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And does setting up your own company and getting registered allow you open work rights like an APRC does? I think that is the main point Rooster is trying to make, how to get a work permit that is not restricted to one sector/employer.
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louis.p



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just had a FBI background check done. It took 8 weeks. Their website says it can take up to 13.
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Rooster_2006



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

louis.p wrote:
I just had a FBI background check done. It took 8 weeks. Their website says it can take up to 13.
????

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to live inside a peanut?
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adogadie



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rooster_2006 wrote:
louis.p wrote:
I just had a FBI background check done. It took 8 weeks. Their website says it can take up to 13.
????

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to live inside a peanut?
I think that louis.p is making a reference to the comment I made on page 2 about K-land regulations making it tough for teachers already outside their home countries to apply for E-2 visas. Man! Eight weeks is pretty long; especially if you are about to take a job offer in K-land without the FBI and diploma notarized by the Dept. of State. You don't need to get that stuff for most EFL jobs in other countries. I would imagine that's a pretty tough process to go through for some.

But if you are looking for hours here, it is just as tough for some. I have only been able to scrape up about 14 hours a week.
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louis.p



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rooster_2006 wrote:
louis.p wrote:
I just had a FBI background check done. It took 8 weeks. Their website says it can take up to 13.
????

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to live inside a peanut?


Rooster_2006 wrote:
]Yeah, I'm not sure if I'll ever live in Korea again, but either way, I'll make sure to get a bunch of notarized copies and an FBI check next time I'm stateside (sometime next year). Can't hurt to be prepared.


Just wanted to help out with synchronization issues Smile


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Niederbom



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, hate to bring up the original topic, but what if I were to get a second bachelor's degree in something useful like Information Assurance or Accounting? Would that assist in getting a "real job" in Taiwan, Singapore, China, etc (no desire to work in Japan or Korea)? My current degree is in History.
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Rooster_2006



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niederbom wrote:
Hey, hate to bring up the original topic, but what if I were to get a second bachelor's degree in something useful like Information Assurance or Accounting? Would that assist in getting a "real job" in Taiwan, Singapore, China, etc (no desire to work in Japan or Korea)? My current degree is in History.
I'd say that the best way to find out is to go to a job site and look at the requirements for the non-teaching jobs. Peruse ads for several months. Write down recurring trends.

It's a numbers game, just like teaching English (only the numbers are a lot smaller).

How many jobs are there in the sector that you want to work in? What are the requirements necessary to get those jobs? What are the competition rates like?

Once you know those things, you can chart a path. Various job sites are the best places to start looking.

Oh, and make sure to contact some people who are in the field actually doing it. They have valuable advice.
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KaiFeng



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Responding to Niderbom- If I was looking to do some additional degree work, and was hoping for something that would contribute to professional success in East Asia (apart from ESL), I would do this:

1. Go to the American Chamber of Commerce (if you�re living outside the states already).

2. Get a list of major American companies (or European; I�ve had good experiences with them as well).

3. Make arrangements to meet ten or so HR managers from these companies (maybe focusing on finance, or IT, or healthcare, if you have preferences).

4. Explain you want to design a hire-worthy study plan, and ask them in what areas they consistently look for expat expertise. This will tell you what they will look for.

5. Also ask them what skill sets they usually get from consultants/contractors.

I�m currently a trainer (IT and ESL) and an IT project manager stateside. In my world, we look for people who can introduce new skill sets for our folks, stuff like ITIL, service architecture, or project management. For things like these we might look for local expat talent, rather than hiring full-time associates. Just my two cents; let us know how it works out.

Right now I�m on vacation in Taiwan (love the place!) and will be checking in with my company�s Taipei office. If I get a chance I�ll pose these questions and see if there�s anything interesting response.

Obviously my approach takes a little effort. But if you're thinking about your future, it's worth your time investment.
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