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xtremdelt8



Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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Location: Panama City Beach, FL

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: "Attach Photo" Reply with quote

I've noticed a some application requirements include a current photo.

What kind of photo do you suggest?

-Straight faced/mug shot/passport picture?
-Smiling face shot?
-Full body?
-Candid picture showing some personality/travel photo?

What are they looking for out of these pictures? I know this is probably a rediculous question, but I've never been asked to send a picture along with a job application or resume before.
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smithrn1983



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Location: Moscow

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: "Attach Photo" Reply with quote

xtremdelt8 wrote:

What are they looking for out of these pictures?


In order of importance:

1 White skin
2 White skin
3 White skin
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Straight faced/mug shot/passport picture?
-Smiling face shot?
-Full body?
-Candid picture showing some personality/travel photo?


Definitely not #4!!
#1 preferred.

Though, smithrn is largely correct, I'm afraid, if you're applying to somewhere in Asia.
Photos are standard on CVs in Europe as well, though , and there it's not all about skin colour.
So long as you look professional and reliable, it should be OK
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xtremdelt8



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're saying the picture of me dressed as Jesus and shotgunning a beer from last year's Halloween party is a bad idea?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what sort of job you're applying for. Teacher? Punk rocker? Other? Cool
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Dragonlady



Joined: 10 May 2004
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Location: Chillinfernow, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrote:
So you're saying the picture of me dressed as Jesus and shotgunning a beer from last year's Halloween party is a bad idea?

First, I agree #1 is your best option - to look professional, and be dressed accordingly - sans face piercings and cleavage, hair short or pulled back in a ponytail (male or female).

And speaking of those shots you've shared with your friends and family on Facebook (and other social websites)? Please don't use the same email address. And please don't use an email address that's been cross-referenced with the one you're using with FB et al... you know the one you used for password recovery and thought was confidential. Mad

If you think that because you've limited who can see those personal photos, think again. All it takes is one of your friends to not have a secured site, or your friend's friend to not have a secured site, and anyone can see what you were up to at the Halloween party Embarassed

Best regards,
DL

PS: These are just 2 reasons that I stopped FB. I'm told there have since been improvements to access and security, but I really have my doubts. Where there's a will, there's a way. And just as a further note, canceling your account through their links doesn't in fact cancel it. Do a google search and find a 'techie' site that will explain how to really cancel your account. Sorry I've lost the link that was published on CBC/CNN some months ago.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might try this:

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Regards,
John
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: "Attach Photo" Reply with quote

smithrn1983 wrote:
xtremdelt8 wrote:

What are they looking for out of these pictures?


In order of importance:

1 White skin
2 White skin
3 White skin
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Laughing Comedy.
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xtremdelt8



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Location: Panama City Beach, FL

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got my Facebook page on private (not that I have much to hide) and I also use a different, more professional email address when applying for jobs.

That said, do potential overseas employers actually take the time to look up an applicant's soical network pages? Or, worse yet, friends of friends' pages?? That seems like a pretty big waste of time.

Then again...I've known some teachers here in the states that have lost jobs because of what they had on their pages.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Employers MAY check social networking sites. Is it a waste of time? If would be if they checked mine. It wouldn't be if they turn up something that's interesting to them, I guess.

They could, though. So I guess you sort of have to assume that they will.

Which means: remember that the internet is a public place. NOT private. If you don't put anything online that you wouldn't tell your grandma, you've got nothing to worry about. If you put up things you don't want people to know, what do you expect? It is a public place.

About photos- I guess I'd go with friendly, not too dry but not too personal, if I was going to send a photo. Like an artist's headshot- professional, well presented, friendly, but NOT personal. (Leave friends, hobbies, drinks, silliness, pets and other people OUT of the photo.)

It's not just about race, I don't think, but of course that can always be a factor in most things.

I say, "if I was going to send a photo" because frankly, I won't. To each their own, but I just haven't heard a compelling, fair-seeming reason for an employer to need one. If the initial ad for a job I'm interested in requires one, I just omit it. If asked, I explain that, for personal reasons, I do not send photos of myself to prospective employers or other unknown parties. I will send a photo or description to a future employer (contract signed) if there is a reason for it, such as to put in an employee newsletter or to let the person meeting me at the airport know what I look like.

No doubt, that has cost me an interview or two.


Best,
Justin
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artemisia



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
If you don't put anything online that you wouldn't tell your grandma, you've got nothing to worry about.

I dunno. There are some pretty liberal grannies around these days (mine certainly wouldn't have qualified). But yes, best to be careful about anything online with your real name attached.

The photo requirement probably it is to do with race but I'd always assumed they were just checking out that you didn't have two heads or six arms etc. but rather the requisite features that qualify as you relatively human-looking.
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Calla_Lily



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do realize that a lot of grandmas today were hippies in the 60s....innagaddadavida baby!
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smithrn1983



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the original topic, I would go with option number 2, and show that you are professionally attired. All schools, even good ones that offer high salaries and hire highly skilled teachers, still want their staff to be happy and optimistic in the classroom.
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Jbhughes



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion:

Like everything on your CV, it should be tailored to the role/institution and follow any conventions in the country your applying to.

For example:

If you applied for a post teaching government officials in an alcohol-restricted country then Halloween shenanigans are probably out of the window.

But if you were applying to a job teaching very young learners where the school is big into face paint and costumes and fun fun fun, then just maybe you could sell it!

I realise taking a new picture for every CV could become impractical, but if your current institution is anything like mine then you would have hundreds to select from for that perfect image!
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professional. I don't want to see you with friends or students. Head shot, like a passport one. Smile, look happy.
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