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Justateacher



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Cost of living in UAE?? Reply with quote

Hi Gang,

I will be interviewing for a job in Multi-Media Training and the use Graphic Design Software in a UAE. I have a nice life right now in Guangzhou China. I live fairly comfortable and I am not sure whether I should even consider making the move if offered the position. I was asked how much I was willing to accept for a salary and I answered $65,000 a year. Later that afternoon they called asking for an interview for this Monday. Can anyone write to me and send me what their understanding of how much it takes to live in UAE? I am not a big spender and was wondering how much of this money I would be able to save!?? How are expenses on the average broken down? What is the biggest expense? Oh yeah one more thing What is the dating scene like there? I would like an occasional evening with the ladies. Any other factors worth considering would be appreciated. Thanks.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't mention the employer, and that certainly matters... but...

Along with that salary, if you plan to save, I would say that you require the normal education benefit package too. That would include free furnished housing (or significant allowances to pay for both - check out the rents, and furniture allowances at the better places are around $8000). You should also get paid tickets - one a year for summer leave. In education, we normally get 6-8 weeks paid vacation. Medical coverage should be supplied and there is normally a gratuity of one month's pay for every year worked.

The availability of women will depend on your age... there are many more single men than single expat women. The local women are off limits, but there are plenty of hookers.

VS
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adorabilly



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Cost of living in UAE?? Reply with quote

Justateacher wrote:
Hi Gang,

I will be interviewing for a job in Multi-Media Training and the use Graphic Design Software in a UAE.

Who is the employer? HCT? I know they were looking for a faculty member doing that.. but not sure.

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I have a nice life right now in Guangzhou China. I live fairly comfortable and I am not sure whether I should even consider making the move if offered the position.

China is fun, cheap and if you are doing well, it is worth staying.

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I was asked how much I was willing to accept for a salary and I answered $65,000 a year.

What are you meaning with salary, and what are they meaning? Is that just base salary? Or does that include housing, airfare, etc? Depending on how you figure it, a starting MA in ESL can get 15K AED a month (about $4500 US a month), but they also get housing of about 6K to 10 K AED a month ( so $1700 to $2500 US), etc... so if it is salary and NOT factoring in housing, that is a pretty decent offer.

If housing is NOT included (so you would have to pay for it out of pocket), then you might want to check into how much housing would cost.
Look at www.dubizzle.com and look up some adverts for housing.

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Later that afternoon they called asking for an interview for this Monday.

Double check to make sure it is a reptuable school and not a scam, as there are LOTS of scams in the region.

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Can anyone write to me and send me what their understanding of how much it takes to live in UAE?

Not really... As the cost of living in the different emirates can vary wildly. And depending on the lifestye you want, your expenses can go from extremely thrifty through the roof to extravagant.

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I am not a big spender and was wondering how much of this money I would be able to save!??

Generally as a rule of thumb, most of our friends are able to save between 1/3 and 1/2 of their salaries pretty easily and still have a very good lifestyle.

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How are expenses on the average broken down? What is the biggest expense?

again it depends. Does your employer cover your housing, or do you have to do it? If they cover it, do they cover the kids education or do you have to? No kids? Or they cover it? Then no big problems.

The next biggest expense (usually) is for a car, then all of the normal things you need to live.

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Oh yeah one more thing What is the dating scene like there? I would like an occasional evening with the ladies.

Just like above. It depends on the emirate, your location, where you want to go and how much you want to spend. If it is a very conservative emirate (like sharjah or RAK) then you will have much fewer options for an active nightlife... but in dubai you can go out clubbing almost as much as you want.
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mimi_intheworld



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Cost of living in UAE?? Reply with quote

adorabilly wrote:

Depending on how you figure it, a starting MA in ESL can get 15K AED a month (about $4500 US a month)...

That is actually really good info for teachers, too. It's the first number I've read that's nearly on par with my experience. So even though the information wasn't directed at me, thanks!
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually 15K AED is $4087 a month or $49K a year. It's OK to start as long as decent housing is thrown in.
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adorabilly



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SNB. Thanks. I was just doing very quick and dirty conversion... (it was off...)
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homeless vet



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having lived and worked in both China and the UAE, I'd say stay in China. Yes, your salary in the UAE may be higher, but there's a bunch of stuff you have to pay for here (car, insurance, utilities, Internet, rip-off rates on cell service) that you don't have to pay for in China - and you have a hell of a lot more freedom and options in your free time. We managed to send as much savings home while living in China as we did living in the UAE - but we had a much better life in China. You don't appreciate things like being able to wear whatever the hell you want or having pork/booze on demand until you live in the Gulf.

Of course, we were making American-scaled wages in China, not Chinese-scaled wages. There are a whole bunch of kids fresh out of college teaching English for $1000 a month, plus housing, and they're happy.
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wailing_imam



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay in China! What's the point moving to the Middle East for more or less the same salary. I have worked in Saudi and China, made more and saved far more in China than in Saudi. Life in the major cities of eastern china is far more dynamic and far less stifling than anything the UAE can offer.
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TABING



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a "nice, comfortable life", why subject you and your family to the trauma of such a big physical and cultural change. I'd stay in China.
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GypsyKat



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had to negotiate your housing allowance, what would you ask for?
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helenl



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had to take an allowance I probably wouldn't take the job unless it was 3 - 5x the going rate for a reasonable accomodation.

Housing prices can change overnight here, and even if you have a lease unscrupulous landlords played silly buggers with tenants in order to get low paying renters out and then immediately turning around and renting at the higher prices to new people.

Right now, the market is relatively quiet - but as said, it can change VERY quickly
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adorabilly



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GypsyKat wrote:
If you had to negotiate your housing allowance, what would you ask for?


Like with most open ended questions here the answer is "it depends."

Which emirate?
In what area of a particular emirate?
Do you have a family and need larger space?

As the housing market is so volatile, it is very hard to make any kinds of statements about it.

A good example would be a place I know in RAK where HCT rents from landlords for about 60K AED per year. These are nice large villas with yards etc... During the housing bubble a couple/three years ago, the landlords were rending the same places for 110K a year. Now they are back to 60ish.

With that same 60K aed you might be hard pressed to find a 2 bedroom flat in some of the better locations in sharjah/dubai.

so the best answer we can reasonably give you is "it depends."

I would suggest you look up rental prices being offered on www.dubizzle.com
Or look in the gulf news classifieds online to get specific information about specific places.
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GypsyKat



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I should have been more specific. I would be looking in Abu Dhabi. I'm open to living off the island, but I don't particularly want to live in Sharjah or Dubai. I'm looking at the Khalifa City's and Al Raha Gardens and something called the Desert Communities. Are these very far out?
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DesertStar



Joined: 02 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of now, the housing situation in Abu Dhabi is the worst compared to Dubai, Sharjah, or Al Ain.

The areas you mentioned aren't only 'very far out', but also dead.
IMO, that is.

Good luck!
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GypsyKat



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dead in what way? As in quiet? No worries to me I currently live in Simaisma in Qatar which is 30 minutes outside the main city in the middle of nowhere. Quiet is good.
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