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JZer
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| $5,000 a month is a lot of money in America! |
You got to me kidding me. If you are earning $5000 in the US, you will only keep a little over $3000 a month. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| forest1979 wrote: |
If you're on 80K then it's not to be sniffed at in the present context.
Yet compare this with the situation 3-4 years ago, and that sort of salary was easilywithin reach.
Think 10 years ago and money was rolling about, plus with the exchange rate, people were $s in. Times were good!
However, from my own experience someone can still easily get 75,000-80,000 with a bit of ingenuity and a determination to go out and do private classes. But, it the ease at which private work can be obtained, and the readiness of people to pay good money, is diminishing. Even for university teachers, whom I mix with, times are not what they once were. Simply saying you were a professor to get NT800 an hour doesnt work anymore.
Some really interesting thread. Keep it going! |
I have noticed that one can snag enough privates to boost your earnings if you can actually speak and read Mandarin. There is less competition for the work which is posted on websites in Chinese. Just a hint.
I got a job teaching a student at the American school off of one of these websites. That gives me an extra 12 hours a week. All I have to do is make sure his homework gets done but to do a job like that you need to know your math and not just rely on your native English. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, it is possible to earn 80, 000 - 100, 000 a month here if you get a few things going on for yourself on the side in addition to your main income. |
80,000 - 100,000 NTD per month? So is that how much you make working in Taiwan?
As my students would say, "PI-YA!!!"
What are these "few things going on for yourself on the side?" that can generate 80,000 - 100,000 NTD per month?
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| That's a lot of money in Taiwan, even in Taipei City, considering the lower cost of living here. |
Yeah, true. Just as 80,000 - 100,000 NTD is a lot of money in Taiwan, 5,000,000 won a month is a lot of money in Korea!
$5,000 a month is a lot of money in America!
500,000 yen a month is a lot of money in Japan!
5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 rupiahs is a lot of rupiahs in Indonesia!
However, what do all these numbers have in common? They're amounts that 95% of English teachers will never see! |
Rooster,
Wow.
You really think NT $80, 000 is unusual income for an EFL teacher, particularly in Taipei.
I don't know. Maybe it's your personality holding you back. And that's not an ad hominem. I've followed your story for the last year or so on here and maybe there is something holding you back.
At any rate, I'm curious why you would be so surprised that many people are earning NT $80, 000 - NT $100, 000 a month. Many of my friends teaching make that and more with all of their jobs combined.
Many earn more. It's not so unusual. |
I will even add to that. It may take some time but once you get to know Taipei, you can find jobs with little outside of class work and earn 80,000 a month. I can tell you that I hardly ever do any work outside of my paid hours. I currently make 80,000 a month teaching 16 hours in a buxiban and 14 hours of privates. I do not run around Taipei teaching privates, I simple have one private that supplies me with around 12 hours a week. |
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forest1979
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| Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: |
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12 hours from one private client is not the norm is it?
You're in a priveleged position. |
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creztor
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| Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Teaching a private a non-English subject isn't really the "average salary" at present. A quick glance at job offers in China and you can see that non-English related subjects earn much more, especially anything that is math or science related. Teaching privates non-English subjects here in Taiwan is something I would consider as "doing your own thing". There are plenty of "job sites" out there and there is no big secret to them beyond being able to read basic Chinese. Privates are also very fickle and most can not afford more than an hour or two a week. Of course they aren't ALL like that, and JZ's post makes this clear, but you shouldn't expect it to be the norm. The average salary is 40k - 60k and you had better be in Taipei to earn that and also "do your own thing". |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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12 hours from one private client is not the norm is it?
You're in a priveleged position. |
Neither is working only 14 hours a week. Other than english teachers abroad I don't usually meet people who think 14 hours a week is a lot. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Privates are also very fickle and most can not afford more than an hour or two a week. |
I would agree that adult private students are fickle and unless they are paying $1200NT or more I could not be bothered to teach them.
On the other hand I have found private elementary students to be very dependable. Maybe even more so that my hours at a cram school. |
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123Loto
Joined: 14 Aug 2006
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For those teachers newly arrived in Taiwan, or thinking about coming over - it would be wise to whip out your calculator first.
I think the chain schools probably offer the basic kind of "normal" pay per hour - so at other places you could get more and in some cases less.
If you get $550NTD per hour, for 25 hours per week, you'll be working about 110 hours per month (4 working weeks, plus 2 or 3 working days per month). So your base pay will be $60,500NTD.
You'll lose 20% to tax, so that leaves you $48,400.
Your rent, if you share, well... could be anything - but let's say $10,000 just in case you want to live in the middle of Taipei (it could be as low as $4000-5000 if you share in a cheaper county).
That leaves $38,400. You then need to pay bills, eat, have fun - costs about $20,000 a month.
So you might save about $18,400 a month.
I found, however, when I came to Taiwan 10 years ago (I'm no longer there btw) that it was only in my 5th month that I actually sent money home. (Not counting a debt I had to pay back home of about $30,000NTD) From then on I sent at least $30,000-40,000 every month, slowly rising to $60-70,000 every month. I worked a lot of hours to do it.
Sorry, my point is that there are start up costs that may hold you back initially. So your first year won't be as good as your second. |
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