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tsunatuna



Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't have it after 15 days. I hope that not somebody else got the documents in their hands Sad Sad
I'll probably have to call them and ask what happened.
If they're so "good" that they lose simple documents, then I don't wanna know what'll happen to my money Sad
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spidr245



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a little confused by this whole XE thing. Any advice any of you could give would be appreciated.

I have a JP Post account and am trying to transfer money to their Tokyo account. But I am a little wary of pressing the "Confirm" button for sending money, since I'm not 100% sure where the money will end up. There was no prompt for entering details such as "beneficiary name" before this screen. I only entered the account number and amount before that.

The teller told me if I send it to the wrong account, I most likely won't get it back... This only makes me more frustrated.
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seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know anything about XE, but when doing a regular furikomi money transfer from JP to another Japanese account, you have to do more than enter an account number and amount.

I have done it a number of times to pay for purchases. I have to enter a bank name, then find the specific branch and choose the type of account I'm tranferring to before even entering the destination account number and amount. Then I have to enter my phone number and can edit the name and info that will appear on the receiver's statement.
Before confirming the transfer, I get a page displaying complete list of my display details as well as those of the destination account.

It's a fairly lengthy process, and when I first had a go last year, I had all kinds of issues trying to recognise the kanji on the options (turns out JP ATMs hide the option amongst sub-categories and then name it something far more long-winded than furikomi). I timed-out and restarted a number of times before I completed my first transaction after two days of attempts.

Perhaps you are choosing the wrong option. You're right not to press that confirm button.
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OneJoelFifty



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A long-term foreign resident recommended setting up a Japanese Paypal account and using it as a way or transferring money. Has anyone done this before? I haven't looked into the details as I've not had the need (or rather, the money, ha) to send money home. Just thought I'd put it out there.
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spidr245



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@seklarwia
Well, yes, I did enter the bank and branch name before that. But I didn't get a screen showing all the details before hitting the confirm button. Maybe that screen will show up after I press that mysterious "confirm" button. Perhaps I am choosing the wrong option though. It doesn't help that I can't read Kanji all that well... Laughing Like I said before, I'm just a little wary of whether the destination is actually the where I want the money to go to. (It doesn't help that I don't have any real assistance from the JP Post people either. They close the windows at 3pm!!! I, and probably many of us on here, don't get out 'til after that...Rolling Eyes )

@OneJoelFifty
Paypal sounds like a reasonable option too. I'll see if I can get that going if this becomes to complicated for me. I do like doing things from the comfort of my own home.

Thanks to the both of you. I'll go and try again tomorrow.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spidr245 wrote:
@seklarwia
Well, yes, I did enter the bank and branch name before that. But I didn't get a screen showing all the details before hitting the confirm button. Maybe that screen will show up after I press that mysterious "confirm" button. Perhaps I am choosing the wrong option though. It doesn't help that I can't read Kanji all that well... Laughing Like I said before, I'm just a little wary of whether the destination is actually the where I want the money to go to. (It doesn't help that I don't have any real assistance from the JP Post people either. They close the windows at 3pm!!! I, and probably many of us on here, don't get out 'til after that...Rolling Eyes )

Sorry that wasn't clear as you only said you only entered and account number and amount.

It should tell you the name of the account holder at some point, too, though likely in katakana. Although that threw me a bit when I made a purchase with STA Travel since many of us in the UK pronounce it 'star' so I was like, "Who the hell is エスティーエイ?!"

To make sure I had the right option the first time, I asked some random old biddy who came in to use the ATM. Obviously don't let/get some stranger to do the entire transfer for you, just to check you are choosing the furikomi option.

Good Luck!!
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Diceman



Joined: 01 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OneJoelFifty wrote:
A long-term foreign resident recommended setting up a Japanese Paypal account and using it as a way or transferring money. Has anyone done this before? I haven't looked into the details as I've not had the need (or rather, the money, ha) to send money home. Just thought I'd put it out there.


Very difficult to do due to both Paypal and banking regulations.

You cannot transfer money from your Japanese bank account through Paypal, only put money into it. The only way to pay for things is through a credit card. You can't just put money into your account like you can with American banks, you'll have to actually set up an invoice from your other account and send it to your Japanese one. In addition, you are not allowed to "gift" money from a Japanese Paypal account, so you will incur FEES every time you need to do this.
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OneJoelFifty



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a real pain. Thank you.
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dekkard



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking into sending money back to the UK recently.

GoLloyds, the Post Office and Xe.com are all mentioned in the forum but no one has mentioned any of the other online money transfer companies - such as Moneycorp, HiFx etc.

Is there a reason people haven't considered these companies?
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steki47



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the post office but it got more expensive awhile back. Went from Y700 to Y2500. Plus my bank charges me $10 to receive.

Anyone try the new 7-11 service?
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dekkard



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 7-11 one looks a bit pricey:

http://www.sevenbank.co.jp/soukin/en/charge/
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steki47



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dekkard wrote:
The 7-11 one looks a bit pricey:

http://www.sevenbank.co.jp/soukin/en/charge/


Thanks for posting the link. I must have misread it the first time. That is more expensive than the post office.

Interesting that China, SK and the Philippines get lower rates.
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dekkard



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly (for UK people with a bank account at the Alliance & Leicester/Santander), it looks like you can transfer money from a Japan Post Bank account to the UK via the Eurogiro network.

http://www.alliance-leicester.co.uk/siteinfo/international-payments.aspx

Has anyone had any experience of transferring money this way?
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dekkard



Joined: 01 May 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:30 pm    Post subject: Yen vs Sterling Reply with quote

Judging by the Yen vs. Sterling/Pound rate today (119 yen to the pound a few moments ago), now is a good time for UK people to be converting any spare yen to pounds. I don't think it's been that low for many years.
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G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dekkard wrote:
Interestingly (for UK people with a bank account at the Alliance & Leicester/Santander), it looks like you can transfer money from a Japan Post Bank account to the UK via the Eurogiro network.

http://www.alliance-leicester.co.uk/siteinfo/international-payments.aspx

Has anyone had any experience of transferring money this way?


In theory, but make sure they're not just using 'giro' in the generic sense and they really do mean the International Postal Union Giro System. These days Giro is simply SWIFT under another name. Good luck getting the Japanese end to know how to do it, although at one point many (many!) moons ago you used to be able to do it from the ATM machines. I'm not even sure the JPU is still a member of the Giro/Swift system - checking online just now, they don't appear to be.
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