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nickpellatt · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1522

Ill agree with the above post.

No experience, no relevant qualifications, no recognised TEFL qualification (and no intention of getting one it seems). Fair play to you, and good luck in finding the right job and having it work out, but you seem pretty underqualified to negotiate anything IMO.

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wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

I just wanted to point out that even in the quote he mentions he has teaching experience. You might have been pointing to ESL experience when you said no experience Nick, but the person has taught before. This is more than can be said for many FT.

I can agree that you should expect to get crap offers over the internet. By crap I mean it is a crap shoot. Rarely win and often lose. However, it is a job. Once in country you can better understand you options, meaning finding better work and moving/using offers to negotiate. For me, having a PhD would make me confident to push for my 10,000RMB. My personal next hurdle in salary.

Good luck OP

nickpellatt · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1522

Trifaro · Joined: 10 Nov 2010 Posts: 152

I think I will take a break from this forum considering that another members goal is to earn 10,000 rmb because of a PD.

What am I doing here besides....

10k rmb = ar;ound 1,500 USD a month to spend.

Help me Lord.

The Edge · Joined: 04 Sep 2010 Posts: 455 Location: China

Trifaro · Joined: 10 Nov 2010 Posts: 152

Before I depart, allow me to share my peace -

Don't come to China unless you want to be used.

If you're 55 or so and looking for a *beep*, OK. If you're 25 and thinking about a 1 or 2 year adventure, Ok. The rest shouldn't apply.

Love & Peace

seamallowance · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:28 am Post subject:

Trifaro · Joined: 10 Nov 2010 Posts: 152

You have a point.

1 more year and then I'm going to Vegas.

I thought college was fun. One day I will own/manage a Burger King.

wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

Sorry if I freaked you out, but back home jobs are insane. I worked 30 hrs a week for less than I get now.

1500 US a month or 250 pounds a week is not bad if you are getting free housing.

I think you might have misinterpreted my comment. I think with a PhD you could make way more than 10.000 RMB a month. I was just saying that is my next goal as far as salaries.

If that is a sad goal to you then fine, throw dirt in my face, but it is an honest goal.

therock · Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: China

Zero · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402

Trifaro · Joined: 10 Nov 2010 Posts: 152

Wang,

I don't have a Phd, but doubt anyone with a Phd in the US is earning around 36,000 USD a year.

Assuming 14k rmb a month with an apartment = around 2k salary + 1k rent = 3k USD a month.

Granted, the hours are less and some things are cheaper in China.

I once had a friend who earned 8k rmb a month with a room. She has a Masters degree in Engineering from Tongji University in Shanghai and worked for Sony back then.

I doubt any engineers in the US make $24,000 a year. I could be wrong though.

El Chupacabra · Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 378 Location: Kwangchow

There aren't many engineers left in the good ol' USA. That's all been outsourced or offshored. Only civil engineers got a chance, but no one wants to build any more. Scratch that orange apron job at the Home Depot, because even the Mexican construction workers are returning home.

Anyway, China is also a great place to escape the left-wing nutjobs who have hijacked the homeland. We can buy more dollars with the same amount of RMB every day. This is the only country where we get a pay rise every month, thanks to the manchild in the White House.

Our measly few thousand RMB is more per month than the typical corporate salary in China, putting us in a higher income bracket than the average prole. Heck, we really oughta take advantage of the US recession and pay down our student loans while we're here.

Trifaro · Joined: 10 Nov 2010 Posts: 152

Wonderful.