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alinyusa
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 Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: 8 applicants per hour, 5000 this month HCT |
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| I have been reading many negative stuff about HCT. But if HCT is so bad why there are approximately 8 applicants per hour??? I don't think ppl would be so interested if it was such a bad place. |
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elmoro
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in upton sinclair's masterpiece the jungle, it says "so long as we have wage slavery, it matters not in the least how debasing and repulsive a task may be, it is easy to find people to perform it."
add that to this economic and job situation currently troubling the world and we may be close to an answer.
elmoro
THE HORROR, THE HORROR! |
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helenl
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Where did you get those numbers? Are they on the HCT website? From what I can see there are 89 different positions being advertised - no mention of how many people are required for each one - and this list has been nearly this long for over a year - a better question to ask might be, why aren't these positions being filled?
Are these qualified applicants? I know that when I was doing hiring I would get hundreds of applications from people who were unqualified, no education, no experience and had no idea what they were applying for. ** Note: I was not doing hiring at HCT
HCT publishes that min of Master's plus 3 years post grad relevant experience and for content that a PhD is desirable plus years of industry experience.
Perhaps too these are applicants who are willing to work in such an environment because they are currently working at worse places for less money - many people from the subcontinent and MENA would love to work for HCT for just those reasons. |
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snorkel
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you sure it's not "8 resignations per hour"? I've heard people are getting out of some colleges due to continuing and worstening slave-like conditions... |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: 8 applicants per hour, 5000 this month HCT |
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| alinyusa wrote: |
| I have been reading many negative stuff about HCT. |
You'd have been morely grammatically correct if you'd written "many negative stuffs". I think you should apply... 
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veiledsentiments
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Now... NCTBA... this is obviously not a native speaker and if you had paid attention to his/her posts, you will see that s/he has been asking about engineering positions, not TEFL.
I too am wondering where those numbers came from though... does their website have a counter? But, even if true, there are lots of people who are desperate for jobs and figure that for the pay and benefits they can last a contract and pay their bills and save a bit... even with all the bad press. They are probably also hoping against hope that they will get assigned to one of the tolerable branches.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| I too am wondering where those numbers came from though... VS |
Oy! I think I got it!
If you take the current 25,856 viewings of the "Sackings in HCT Abu Dhabi" thread and divide it by the 123 days it's been on the board, and then, divide that number by 24, you come out to approximately 8.75 viewings (applications?) an hour!
NCTBA (the math-a-ma-something!) |
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Sheikh N Bake
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe it's eight teachers an hour sent flying through the front door and onto the next plane out for wearing skirts that were too short or disagreeing with a stupidvisor. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Sheikh N Bake wrote: |
| I believe it's eight teachers an hour sent flying through the front door and onto the next plane out for wearing skirts that were too short |
Now you're just starting another false rumor... or rather 2 at a time. 
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Sheikh N Bake
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| OK but dear old ADWC director was on a dress code crusade, n'est pas? (Or should I say "dress-code jihad"? Anyway it was AD-something-C. |
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uaeobserver
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: 8 applicants per hour, 5000 this month HCT |
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| alinyusa wrote: |
| I have been reading many negative stuff about HCT. But if HCT is so bad why there are approximately 8 applicants per hour??? |
A bot somewhere in India??.......
Certainly, HCT has someone who can figure out how to dress up their application statistics. They can dress up a "Diploma..." --- to make it one of the most appealing credentials available in the UAE --- so I'm sure they can dress up their job application statistics.
PR could make a pig roast look like a Ramadan Iftar. |
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homeless vet
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:04 am Post subject: Re: 8 applicants per hour, 5000 this month HCT |
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| alinyusa wrote: |
| I have been reading many negative stuff about HCT. But if HCT is so bad why there are approximately 8 applicants per hour??? I don't think ppl would be so interested if it was such a bad place. |
People applying haven't got a clue. There's an exodus going on right now, many of the newer faculty aren't even completing their first contract. Hell, I knew after my first week there I'd be leaving early. Perhaps if you're used to teaching "school" rather than being a university faculty member, you can stomach HCT. As long as one is in class for contact hours and attends needed (not "I need to justify my job") meetings, why in the heck does it matter where/when they do prep and grading? Why is it necessary for a credentialed professional to occupy a cubicle like they're some time-clock punching schmuck? |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: 8 applicants per hour, 5000 this month HCT |
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| homeless vet wrote: |
| People applying haven't got a clue. Hell, I knew after my first week there I'd be leaving early. Perhaps if you're used to teaching "school" rather than being a university faculty member, you can stomach HCT. As long as one is in class for contact hours and attends needed (not "I need to justify my job") meetings, why in the heck does it matter where/when they do prep and grading? Why is it necessary for a credentialed professional to occupy a cubicle like they're some time-clock punching schmuck? |
There's really no reason for new teachers not to know. At least since the advent of the internet and boards like this. What you are describing is how it has always been at HCT and every Gulf university that I taught in over the years. Teaching Foundations EFL is and has never been much different than teaching "school" and the Gulf employers have always considered us little more than factory workers. These facts of life have been repeated endlessly on this board since the mid-90s.
So it is... so it always has been... so it always will be. If you want the tax free money and long vacations with a ticket handed to you and free housing, you tolerate it for as long as you can... and then leave to count your money.
I guess you will just have to go back home where we ESL people are treated like professionals and respected and highly paid. And where is that by the way? It certainly isn't the US or UK or Australia or NZ or Canada... where we are low-paid if we can find anything... taxed to death... no benefits... only having decent housing if we have a spouse with a real job... and at the rock bottom basement of the education hierarchy.
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homeless vet
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| Alas, VS, the spousal unit and I are both content faculty. We are indeed a bit more fortunate than our EFL faculty friends. |
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