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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I would say the quality of teachers in many locations gets better and better each year. The days when we would employ people just because they were native speakers are long over. More teachers take their work seriously and make a good contribution to their classes and the life of a school.
However, the fact remains that EFL is a very easy job to get into and it does attract people for the wrong reasons. Following is a classification of some of the common types of teachers I have dealt with. This analysis is very crude and general but you do see patterns in recruitment.
Career teacher
Not very common as frankly the wages do not attract people who are in for the long haul. Still, a lot of DOSes have started off as teachers so it is genuinely a good place to build a career.
Straight off CELTA
The standard teacher. Typically young and enthusiastic, wants to spend a couple of years abroad before going back home and getting a real job.
Traveler
They see exotic locations and seek good bases for exploring. When they find so much time is taken up by planning and teaching they are disappointed.
Academic
These teachers may have higher degrees in linguistics but no teaching qualification involving observed teaching. They have strong views about teaching and do not respond well to feedback.
Drifter
Often hourly-paid teachers who make a comfortable wage and stay because it is easier than moving anywhere else. Despite having been here for years may moan a lot about school.
Second career
Maybe they were engineers or civil servants before but now they fancy a change. Difficult for them to start again at the bottom, so to speak, but a lot depends on their flexibility and attitude to change.
Alternative motives
Married to locals and no other career options; a commitment to evangelical movements; want to study local language seriously; students doing research into local language/culture.
Misfits
People with social and/or personal problems looking for an escape. They don�t find it |
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bulgogiboy

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:43 am Post subject: |
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An astute analysis of the different types of TEFLers out there.
However, I have to disagree with this statement:
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The days when we would employ people just because they were native speakers are long over. |
By all accounts, this is still the norm in Korea. The 2 main requirements for most jobs in the language schools there are simply to have a bachelor degree in any subject and be a native-speaker from the US/UK/Canada/etc. Very few job ads require a CELTA or other teaching qualification as mandatory, with those usually being mentioned as 'preferred' at best.
Most language schools in Korea don't really want amazingly gifted teachers who can explain the finer points of grammar, all they are looking for is someone (usually a white someone) with whom the kids can practice real spoken English. The Korean teachers handle the grammar. Universities might be a bit more discerning, but even then you still see lots of job ads which only have the two basic requirements. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I agree it's not the same everywhere. More true for Europe, less true for other markets. |
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VietCanada

Joined: 30 Nov 2010 Posts: 590
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
I would say the quality of teachers in many locations gets better and better each year. The days when we would employ people just because they were native speakers are long over. More teachers take their work seriously and make a good contribution to their classes and the life of a school.
However, the fact remains that EFL is a very easy job to get into and it does attract people for the wrong reasons. Following is a classification of some of the common types of teachers I have dealt with. This analysis is very crude and general but you do see patterns in recruitment.
Career teacher
Not very common as frankly the wages do not attract people who are in for the long haul. Still, a lot of DOSes have started off as teachers so it is genuinely a good place to build a career.
Straight off CELTA
The standard teacher. Typically young and enthusiastic, wants to spend a couple of years abroad before going back home and getting a real job.
Traveler
They see exotic locations and seek good bases for exploring. When they find so much time is taken up by planning and teaching they are disappointed.
Academic
These teachers may have higher degrees in linguistics but no teaching qualification involving observed teaching. They have strong views about teaching and do not respond well to feedback.
Drifter
Often hourly-paid teachers who make a comfortable wage and stay because it is easier than moving anywhere else. Despite having been here for years may moan a lot about school.
Second career
Maybe they were engineers or civil servants before but now they fancy a change. Difficult for them to start again at the bottom, so to speak, but a lot depends on their flexibility and attitude to change.
Alternative motives
Married to locals and no other career options; a commitment to evangelical movements; want to study local language seriously; students doing research into local language/culture.
Misfits
People with social and/or personal problems looking for an escape. They don�t find it |
Speak for yourself.
These never ending, tired, cynical attempts to stigmatise myself and other very fine people who teach abroad come close to making me feel dirty about my life.
I work at a large school with about 30 teachers and I'm hard pressed to see where any fit these recycled, stereotypical yet creatively multi categorised generalisations of disinterested, lazy, just in it for the ride or can't get work back home cause I'm a loser classifications. I think you forgot the old 'wanted for a crime back home' category. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Speak for yourself.
It's my opinion and experience by definition.
These never ending, tired, cynical attempts to stigmatise myself and other very fine people who teach abroad come close to making me feel dirty about my life.
I don't think the first two categories are derogatory in any way. I absolutely agree that there is a very useful niche for minimally qualified teachers in many job markets and I in no way would consider them t to be doing 'dirty' work.
I work at a large school with about 30 teachers and I'm hard pressed to see where any fit these recycled, stereotypical yet creatively multi categorised generalisations of disinterested, lazy, just in it for the ride or can't get work back home cause I'm a loser classifications. I think you forgot the old 'wanted for a crime back home' category
It's included in the final category.  |
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bulgogiboy

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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: |
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[...]myself and other very fine people who teach abroad. |
The majesty of the TEFL teacher should never be overlooked. Thanks for pointing out how brilliant you are. |
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WhatTimeFinish?
Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Posts: 22 Location: On the sofa, in my pants
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: EFL Characters |
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You've all forgotten or deliberately ignored the main characteristics of and reasons for being EFL teachers;
a/ We like to help our students in a particularly frustrating subject
2/ The ability to give guidance is usually a natural personal trait
iii/ We're sick of living in a country where the X-Factor is regarded as 'culture'
g/ We prefer to wear thinner coats in December
next/ The holiday season isn't about maxing out your credit cards
finally/ We all have enormous wangs or fabulous boobs
5/ Tax |
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bulgogiboy

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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: |
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You've all forgotten or deliberately ignored the main characteristics of and reasons for being EFL teachers;
a/ We like to help our students in a particularly frustrating subject
2/ The ability to give guidance is usually a natural personal trait
iii/ We're sick of living in a country where the X-Factor is regarded as 'culture'
g/ We prefer to wear thinner coats in December
next/ The holiday season isn't about maxing out your credit cards
finally/ We all have enormous wangs or fabulous boobs
5/ Tax |
a/True, although some teachers are overly interested in helping to relieve their students' 'frustration'.
2/Fair enough, although you can't guide a blind horse to lager. So sayeth the psalm.
iii/The X-factor is a load of rubbish, agreed. However, this obsession with talent shows is becoming a worldwide phenomenon ('Afghan Star' is incredibly popular in Karzai's kingdom').
g/The winter in Korea was probably worse than winter in my native country (Scotland - a bit chilly at the best of times). December seemed particularly bitter there, I think I needed a thicker coat!
next/Depends on which country you are working in. In some places every day is about maxing out your credit card.
finally/True, I have both.
5/Tax can be worse, depending on where you are working. In Turkey they took a massive chunk of my salary, much more than they do in the UK. Bear in mind that kebabs were not tax-deductable. Not even pitta bread was. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Do EFL teachers tend to share some personality traits? |
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johnslat wrote: |
OK, it's a generalization, but it was inspired by another thread: "Travelling the World Really Possible."
Based on your experience, what do you think? Do individuals who go into EFL (not ESL)and stay in it perhaps (generally) share some common personality traits (e.g.. love of adventure, curiosity, above average ability to adapt, etc?)
I think so - and since I spent over twenty years teaching EFL, I had the opportunity to get a pretty wide sampling.
Are we, as a group, different from those teachers who stay at home, and if so, how are we different?
Regards,
John |
Probably. One great thing is that hopefully EFL teachers learn to not promote their culture as the only perspective. I wish some classroom teachers back home would be more open minded about the world.
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spiral78

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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Probably. One great thing is that hopefully EFL teachers learn to not promote their culture as the only perspective. I will wish some classroom teachers back home would be more open minded about the world.
Very good point. Particularly as so many North American classrooms include recent immigrants!
Though my experience teaching in North America is limited, I'd add that some of the textbooks I've seen used demonstrate unnecessary cultural biases. I remember one handbook on writing for non-native English speakers that included a George Will article which was condemnatory of almost every large European country, for example. The same book shamelessly promoted McDonald's as a shining example of capitalism and a vehicle to spread (good) US culture to (dark) foreign lands. I recall the authors were from a prominent Virginia university.....
I think textbooks (and teachers) for immigrants obviously need some degree of cultural bias - the students are normally aiming to become citizens, or it's assumed so, in any case. Nothing wrong with promoting the good things about the target country as well as its language. I think it's crossing the line to criticise others, though.
I think that's roughly the line most of my colleagues teaching abroad also observe - nothing wrong with promoting (to a reasonable degree, and as it may be useful or interesting to students) one's own country, so long as one doesn't criticise the students' countries in so doing. |
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VietCanada

Joined: 30 Nov 2010 Posts: 590
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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bulgogiboy wrote: |
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[...]myself and other very fine people who teach abroad. |
The majesty of the TEFL teacher should never be overlooked. Thanks for pointing out how brilliant you are. |
LOL You are so hooked into this that you willingly admit to being a a loser of some sort. Indeed you celebrate and promulgate this veiled insult.
Yeah direct your sarcasm at me. RMAOLOTF
So many people do this job because it is fulfilling. So many do it well because they must.
Where is that category?
Well of course it's not there. That would denigrate those who enjoy their life of lazy, unproductive superciliousness. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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VietCanada:
So many people do this job because it is fulfilling. So many do it well because they must.
Where is that category?
Well of course it's not there. That would denigrate those who enjoy their life of lazy, unproductive superciliousness.
Spiral 78
Career teacher
Not very common as frankly the wages do not attract people who are in for the long haul. Still, a lot of DOSes have started off as teachers so it is genuinely a good place to build a career.
Straight off CELTA
The standard teacher. Typically young and enthusiastic, wants to spend a couple of years abroad before going back home and getting a real job.
I don't think the first two categories are derogatory in any way. I absolutely agree that there is a very useful niche for minimally qualified teachers in many job markets and I in no way would consider them t to be doing 'dirty' work.
VietCanada: lazy, unproductive superciliousness.
Who exactly is being nasty about TESL/TEFL and its practicioners here?? |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:03 am Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
However, the fact remains that EFL is a very easy job to get into and it does attract people for the wrong reasons. Following is a classification of some of the common types of teachers I have dealt with. |
I think you hit the nail on the head. |
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bulgogiboy

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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Begone Satan!!
Seriously, please don't fly ROFL copters on an English teaching forum. It demeans us all. |
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artemisia

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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:27 am Post subject: |
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TEFL for me has pretty much always been combined with something else. Sometimes it's been the main thing and sometimes a subsidiary teaching area. Although I've had welcome breaks from it, I've generally been glad to go back to it. I think like most acquired skills, if you don't teach regularly, you start to lose your 'feel' for it.
Similar personality traits? Maybe. I know I'm drawn to those who have travelled widely and probably learnt another language but I think I'd have wanted all that for myself regardless of whatever job I did. Coming from the typical immigrant family, where "home" was always someplace else, I think I was 'destined' to be on the move a bit. Now "home" is wherever I decide to make it be. |
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