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blaz44



Joined: 03 Jan 2005
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Location: wroclaw, poland

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: No Polish Friends Reply with quote

Just wondering, are there other native speakers in the same boat. Honestly, after 5 years teaching in Poland, I can say I have no Polish friends. I know people, have their #s, but at the end of the day, not really a friendship there. I am married to Pole as well, I just have nothing in common, except the drink and usually I am drinking them under the table(not something to be proud of boys and girls). I am on the edge of going postal. Looking for a change but not interested in returning to Canada or my old occupation.
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wojbrian



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some great friends here.
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Jack Walker



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I know what you mean. I spent 7 years there and never really made any good male friends. There are a few that I keep in touch with, but they were all colleagues from work.Generally Poles are terrible when it comes to keeping in touch.

An Australian mate of mine spent 10 years in Poland and never had a good male friend after that time. He said that the Polish blokes like to call you up/text from the pub at 2am when they're pissed and ask you to come out with them,but when sober they tended to lay very low.

The Polish blokes I met fell into 3 categories:

1)Guys wanting to practice their English/be seen with a "foreigner" for free.

2)The drunk friends/drinking buddies who appear a few times a month only to vanish again.

3)The guys whose lives revolve around their jobs.They could be your friend under normal circumstances, but are so busy working 50-60 hours per week trying to keep up with the Nowakowskis, that they have no time for an actual life.

Female friends are quite easy to make, but the whole sexual tension thing usually messes things up.Polish women are all a little batty/neurotic and should be dealt with very cautiously! Smile
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maniak



Joined: 06 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: No Polish Friends Reply with quote

No surprise there, most people made friends back in college or through immediate relationships, ie family/friends of friends/work.
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Jack Walker



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: No Polish Friends Reply with quote

maniak wrote:
No surprise there, most people made friends back in college or through immediate relationships, ie family/friends of friends/work.



Good point.....I think most serious friendships are forged during the college years.All my current good friends were the ones whom I'd met during uni.

I think it is the result of "being a stranger in a strange land" scenario as well.

You are "exotic" and "trendy" when abroad, but people have a tendency to forget about you when you move home or to another country.The same situation happened to me after my 2 years in Asia.It isn't unique to Poland.
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hrvatski



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero close Polish male friends... female friends on the other hand were plentiful! how good is it strolling into a bar with 6 gorgeous women Smile
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maniak



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hrvatski wrote:
Zero close Polish male friends... female friends on the other hand were plentiful! how good is it strolling into a bar with 6 gorgeous women Smile


the gay guy

sorry


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from my pov, if you want make buds with polish dudes you yourself have to appeal to polish dudeness. speaking polish is a big deal, as most guys feel uncomfortable having to speak english in a real deal setting, but if you can BS on things like cars, making szmal, *beep*, and just general pierdolenie while acting a bit like a tough guy is a good start, especially having something in common like some hobby. otherwise what good are you as a friend, cause honestly the thought of having to take out some brit and babysit him since he doesnt know whats what doesnt sound like fun. but most poles are quite hermetically closed, and those barriers stay up for a long time, its just that kind of culture.
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hrvatski



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! I deserved that, but really it's a good way to go.
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Master Shake



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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Location: Colorado, USA

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hrvatski wrote:
Ha! I deserved that, but really it's a good way to go.


Being gay?
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Hod



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maniak wrote:
have to appeal to polish dudeness. speaking polish is a big deal, as most guys feel uncomfortable having to speak english in a real deal setting, but if you can BS on things like cars, making szmal, *beep*, and just general pierdolenie while acting a bit like a tough guy is a good start.


Fair play if you speak Polish, but aren't you pretending to be someone else? Were you a tough guy car enthusiast before heading to Poland? Are you the same with friends and family back home? I�d rather be myself and have no local friends (which I haven�t).

It also depends on the definition of �friend�. For example, I would lend a friend money (no more than 5000 Euros, mind) in a time of crisis. The friends I have would probably do likewise. But foreigners you met a couple of years ago and will probably have forgotten in five years, are these really friends or just acquaintances?

Watch out for the same thread on the Germany Forum.
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maniak



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Hod, it has nothing to do with pretending to be someone else. As with all facets of life, you have to adapt to your environment. Otherwise Darwinism kicks in and you go the way of the dodo, imho. I was no tough guy then nor now, but I am far more persistent and demanding and I would say even agressive than before, Poland demands it or youll be walked all over. But Ive always been a car enthusiast but it now plays a bigger role in my life as a conversation 'set piece'.

In the end you are right, they are more acquaintances than friends, but I did make a few really close friends here and its they are one of the reasons keeping me here instead of searching for greener pastures.
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sharter



Joined: 25 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: ships.......... Reply with quote

In TEFL we're mostly ships that pass in the night.

I have Polish people I party with but only 2 or 3 I've known since 96 and they're all women and great. I'm 40 and the men my age are mostly bullshyting a-holes. The younger generation on the other hand are cooler, more liberal and just modern. I must say though, going to the pub with Poles usually costs. Dating certainly does. Polish blokes tend to big themselves up and you're never really sure what's true....a bit chippy I suppose.

There are many I like, who also like me, but having real friends is different. The Brits I've known in Poland since 96 are friends for sure.

Once you've done 5 or 6 countries you realize you'll never see these people again. TEFLing can get lonely.
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Blasphemer



Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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Location: NYC/Warszawa

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bingo!
I think I've just realized why most of you guys post here so often. Ever thought that it just might be you? Let's see, hundreds of natives in this country and only a handful posting here.
I've made some really great friends here in the past two years, my wife as well. I hate to point out the gorilla at this fine table, but man...
Good point about making friends while at the Uni, but people are the same, no matter where you go, there are of course some cultural differences, some more, some less serious, but being yourself usually works no matter where you go. People see through facades, and you simply end up looking like a pretentious *beep* half the time. I've found that being a straight shooter is usually the best way to find friends and avoid people who are simply trying to take you for a ride.
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