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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. I definitely won't flame you - what you're seeking is possible, of course.

However, I think it's not a given that a much younger woman will be interested simply based on your specs (English speaker, older, educated).

In the past, there was some cache in simply being from the West, but too many starry-eyed EE women married in a bit of haste, and found the hard way that the guys who had looked so great were in fact ..... well, just guys with more-or-less limited prospects and resources. Stories abound, and get around!

Keep in mind that EE ladies very much like the luxuries in life. There's also the child issue to keep in mind - most women want to have some! Are you up to late fatherhood? Can you afford it?

Sure, you may find the perfect lady, but you're not likely to be a super-hot prospect, based on what you've posted so far.
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russophile



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: What is socially accepted [real] income here for marriage? Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for your frank and insightful response.

I've read up on Warsaw incomes, and it seems such a hodge-podge of opinions, especially due to unreported income, that I still don't have any clear picture of what women who plan on being stay-at-home moms are thinking is adequate monthly income.

My situation is that my investments now reliably pay about Zloty 3900 monthly.

However, since I haven't retired yet and make about US$100k/yr, I can invest enough each month such that my monthly lifetime income after retirement _increases_ about 100 zloty per month per month of work.

So if I work another year, I'd have 1200 more per month of passive income, for a total of ~5100 zloty/month.
But I'm getting older! I don't want to stay on the treadmill forever.

I do want to try to have children, but certainly not in the USA, where all I've worked for for twenty years would be instantly lost to the Family Courts in the case of a whimsical, no-fault divorce. This risk is especially high with younger women. I definitely do not plan on bringing anyone back here to he US until they prove themselves for ten years or more.

I know in the US, any income under US$30k would be "young love" marriages, a young girl swooning over a handsome young guy, thinking love conquers all and not caring about luxury. ( Of course if the young man is a nursing student, he'd end up making more than me. )

I actually did a [rather poorly controlled] study in Hawaii of master's level graduate students asking what level of income men and women found acceptable in a mate.

These were more late 20's women and men, and women said an average minimum of about US$50k was what they wanted. Interestingly, I included extremely high incomes such as over 2-5 million on the questionnaire, but women actually had a limit above which they thought the man less attractive. They said it was because he would be unreliable because of his high status.

The men didn't care about prospective mate's income, at either the lower or higher end.

So, and I know it's necessarily a generalization, how much is considered "respectable", where her friends won't think she's a loser?

In the US, there is a strong political/social feeling against marrying significantly older guys among young women, unless he is literally a superstar-- music star, athlete, MAYBE a wealthy surgeon. I think it's seen as meaning she's not attractive enough to get a young guy. I think looks are more central in the US, as it [has been ] relatively easy to subsist in the USA.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't comment too much on Polish women, but as you've been to Russia and know all about the mercenary attitude a lot of the locals have there, I doubt you'd be surprised to hear that things would not be dissimilar elsewhere in Eastern Europe. In short, all your income, however much that is, can easily be swallowed up by your belle.

I may teach English after taking a course. I think I'd do OK as I have professional performing experience and got in the top 1% on the Verbal part of the Graduate Record Examination. Is the possibility of part-time work realistic?


Aren't you a teacher already? If not, get your TEFL cert before you start, as you'll be surprised at how little getting a good GRE score has to do with anything.
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Hod



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Prospects of All Kinds Reply with quote

russophile wrote:
in the top 1% on the Verbal part of the Graduate Record Examination


This is commendable. Well done. If I was anywhere near as qualified, I�d be happily married by now, but with all these Polish women asking about my GRE score, I�m still on the lookout for the first Mrs Hod.
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russophile



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: thanks for info Reply with quote

Thanks, not a bad response, two helpful answers and a couple standard smart-guy snipes.
A good sign you're too busy having fun.
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Blasphemer



Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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Location: NYC/Warszawa

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="dynow"]
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Poles don't need visas to go to the US for 90 days or less, so Americans are given some special treatment in turn.



hahahaha... nonsense

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yeah, this is absolutely false. not only do they need a visa, but it's difficult to get one. Poland will never be part of America's visa waiver program till they stop overstaying their visas.


Actually, the MAIN reason at this point, is the ease which which most Balkan country citizens can obtain a Polish citizenship. Believe it or not it has more to do with terrorism then overstaying visas. I was teaching at a certain gov't agency last year and we've discussed this issue in depth with my students.
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wojbrian



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's still a pain in the backside for an American to set up a company.

You have to find someone that actually knows how to do it. It's much easier for the lemmings to tell you no rather then stick their necks out.
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hrvatski



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is that Russophile sounds like a calculating tool and with attitudes like those expressed he'll never go the distance with a Polish woman with even half a brain.
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Master Shake



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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Location: Colorado, USA

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wojbrian wrote:
It's still a pain in the backside for an American to set up a company.

You have to find someone that actually knows how to do it. It's much easier for the lemmings to tell you no rather then stick their necks out.


The process of setting up a business is exactly the same for Americans as it is for EU citizens. It's fairly easy and can be done in a day, once you get your NIP number.
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