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Enigma2011
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P.S. Teresa...you say you are a certified teacher?? You do realize that the certification has to be renewed after 7 years in some states and ten in others, yes? If you haven't had yours renewed since 1980 then you are NO LONGER A CERTIFIED TEACHER.
Just thought you'd want to know. But you can always go back and live in the states and get certified again and teach in Texas. 33 to 44,000 a year. |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| How OLD is your UNDERgrad degree?? 1970?? ..... But you can always go back and live in the states |
Just a guess, but I'm thinking Teresa might like to tell you where to go, too. 
Seriously, though, how is the job hunt going in the new year? Anything opening up in the Big Taco? |
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Enigma2011
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Yea, I have a job now. Not many hours but what can a person do, right? Thanks for asking Sam, you're really a nice person.  |
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Enigma2011
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Samantha wrote: |
Enigma wrote:
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| How OLD is your UNDERgrad degree?? 1970?? ..... But you can always go back and live in the states |
Just a guess, but I'm thinking Teresa might like to tell you where to go, too.
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Na, Teresa loves me and besides, I'm just pointing out a simple fact...there's no way she can still be certified if the original certificate is over seven or ten years old. Plus she would now be required to get a Masters within three years of being certified or she would lose it. Well, that seems to be the case in most states anyway. |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| Okay, 'splain that one to us, because we aren't all from the USA. If you don't get your Masters within 3 years of getting certified as a teacher, you lose your certification? |
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Enigma2011
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| Okay, 'splain that one to us, because we aren't all from the USA. If you don't get your Masters within 3 years of getting certified as a teacher, you lose your certification? |
It's starting to be a requirment in many states now. The new concept is that teachers need to be lifelong learners and one way to do this is to have teachers get their Masters and to be retested for certification after seven or ten years for example.
Imagine a doctor who after graduating from med school never goes to any medical conferences or never attends any type of classes to keep updated on the latest methods.
Same for teachers now in the States. It's called professional development. I'm suprised the posters here don't know about that since they preach it so much for the EFL world in Mexico. Of course these requirments vary from state to state. For example, one state may tell you that you must obtain a Masters three years after being certified and you have to be recertified every three years.
Another state may say you have four years to get your Masters after receiving your certification and your certification must be updated every seven years, but yes,the STANDARDS are pretty much similar...one must get a Masters degree, get certified by the State you want to teach in and be recertified(or tested again) every few years.
Having STANDARDS for the EFL community would be a good thing as well. Much better then the way things are now in EFL. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Enigma2011 wrote: |
| Samantha wrote: |
Enigma wrote:
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| How OLD is your UNDERgrad degree?? 1970?? ..... But you can always go back and live in the states |
Just a guess, but I'm thinking Teresa might like to tell you where to go, too.
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Na, Teresa loves me and besides, I'm just pointing out a simple fact...there's no way she can still be certified if the original certificate is over seven or ten years old. Plus she would now be required to get a Masters within three years of being certified or she would lose it. Well, that seems to be the case in most states anyway. |
Can you provide a website or link that states that a teacher in a US state loses certification without a masters?
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Guy Courchesne
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Here is a website covering Wisconsin educator licensing. I didn't look through it, but there are some links on it to renewals and reqs. Highly relevant to Mexico and this particular thread. 
http://www.dpi.state.wi.us/Tepdl/licguide.html |
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Prof.Gringo
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Here is a website covering Wisconsin educator licensing. I didn't look through it, but there are some links on it to renewals and reqs. Highly relevant to Mexico and this particular thread.
http://www.dpi.state.wi.us/Tepdl/licguide.html |
Thanks Guy! Sounds like my new career move to Oshkosh is off to a great start! |
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gregd75
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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No need to apply if you don't like the job.
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Wow. uncalled for comment. |
Just stating the obvious. Noone is holding a gun to a persons head, forcing them to apply.
Maybe you earn more money in Walmart or Costco- but I a very sure that the employees don't get the job satisfaction that teachers get. Well. I get from seeing my students enjoy classes and see them learn and progress. |
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Prof.Gringo
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No need to apply if you don't like the job.
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Wow. uncalled for comment. |
Maybe you earn more money in Walmart or Costco- but I a very sure that the employees don't get the job satisfaction that teachers get. Well. I get from seeing my students enjoy classes and see them learn and progress. |
I am sure that job satisfaction is the most important thing, even if making starvation wages.
There is a point between which one must balance pay and ability to advance with job satisfaction. That's why so many folks keep jobs they hate. Those jobs pay well (some of them do, anyways).
I have had some jobs that really balanced well between work, pay, satisfaction and stress. Only one of those was in EFL which worked well for me at the time but I could never live on that pay again. |
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the peanut gallery
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I agree that balance is needed but often times is unattainable, at least for the teacher.
Using Mexico's minimum wage as an economic compass for supposedly educated teachers' salaries is incorrect. As a reference it is far too macro to be useful for this thread. |
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TeresaLopez
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Just to put things in perspective, as a US certified teacher with a degree in Education, I made the princely sum of $12,500 yearly |
And when were you teaching in the States Teresa? 1970??? How OLD is your UNDERgrad degree?? 1970?? In Texas if one is STATE CERTIFIED and is a holder of an ADVANCED degree like a MASTERS,one can make MUCH MORE than what you mentioned above.
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No, it was in the early 1990�s. The same schools only pay 22,000 per year now. Try living on that in Milwaujkee, where rents are in the 600 dollar range and heating bills in the winter can top 300 dollars. A lot of teachers qualify for food stamps, both in private schools and in some public schools as well. |
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the peanut gallery
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Sounds rough Teresa. A friend of mine in Canada pays about 500 a month for his oil heater when they get hit with a cold snap!
Does anyone know if Mexico has a "food stamp" type program for low earning teachers here? |
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TeresaLopez
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Samantha wrote: |
| Okay, 'splain that one to us, because we aren't all from the USA. If you don't get your Masters within 3 years of getting certified as a teacher, you lose your certification? |
No, you don�t have to get a Master�s to maintain your certification. You DO have to do a certain number of continueing education credits per year, that can be fulfilled by workshops offered by your school system (unpaid) or you can choose to do graduate hours towards a Master�s. Some school systems require a Master�s within a certain time period, but that is not the same as certification. Also, the requirements vary from state to state. In some states certification is for 5 years, in some it�s for 10, and a few states still have lifetime certification after teaching for a period of time, usually 10 years. Certifcations are monitored by the various states�department of education, and is uniform for everyone certified in that state, whereas different school districts within the state, as well as the various private schools also have their own requirements for employment. It�s very difficult to make a sweeping statement about certification in the US as it varies - sometimes a lot - from state to state. |
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