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Gordon
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ls650
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Communist Smurf wrote: |
| you seem to have developed an interesting way of writing...take the right way of saying something and add periods to it...i agree...you aren't much of a conformist...especially when it comes to writing properly...did you make up these rules by yourself???or did someone actually teach you how to write poorly???i hope you don't teach people this kind of english... |
You kids need to go outside and play.  |
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Aramas
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| i would expect if you met your soulmate...as likely as that is...then you would quit your job and run away together... |
While this is probably true, I believe there is an implicit expectation that certain standards of spontaneous frolicking in wildflower-strewn meadows should be observed before skipping off into the sunset hand-in-hand  |
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Scott in HK
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Smurf...
when there are three in a row...they aren't called periods...
i give you a prize...if you can tell me what they are...(except of course when i mistakenly put four in a row, then i don't know what you would call them)
and no...i don't teach my students this particular form of discourse...although it be strongly argued that this particular form of writing is an acceptable literacy practice in this one form of discourse...that being the discussion board...where often people think of the text as a representation of verbal discourse... |
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shmooj
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Scott, I find it interesting that you believe a 4 week CELTA turns someone into a professional with a mandatory code of ethics that is required to be adopted in it's entirety. I'm also interested in why you feel that comformity is a good thing. A job is just a job whether it's sweeping floors or ruling the universe. You are not your job.
I have my own code of ethics, and they're certainly higher than any set of professional ethics I've ever encountered. They won't be changing any time soon.
I have no intention of trying to get chummy with students, but if by some bizzarre synchronicitous event I happen to meet my soulmate in class I won't be wringing my hands in existential angst over an imaginary ethical dilemma. |
Rock on... 
and khmerhit... |
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shmooj
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| ls650 wrote: |
| Communist Smurf wrote: |
| you seem to have developed an interesting way of writing...take the right way of saying something and add periods to it...i agree...you aren't much of a conformist...especially when it comes to writing properly...did you make up these rules by yourself???or did someone actually teach you how to write poorly???i hope you don't teach people this kind of english... |
You kids need to go outside and play. |
...with the traffic 
Scott seems to have a standard reply to messages he disagrees with recently. Perhaps it's his "out of the office assistant" helping him out |
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Scott in HK
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:38 am Post subject: |
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shmooj wrote...
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| Scott seems to have a standard reply to messages he disagrees with recently. Perhaps it's his "out of the office assistant" helping him out |
I had thought about responding to this...but I really don't understand what you are saying...so I decided against it... |
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Stephen Jones
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In Eats, Shoots and Leaves Lynne Truss describes the ellipsis thus:
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| So it is true we must keep an eye on the dash - and also the ellipsis (...), which is turning up increasingly in emails as shorthand for "more to come, actually... it might be related to what I've just written... but the main thing is I haven't finished... let's just wait and see... I could go on like this for hours ... " |
Of course, Scott in HK is innocent of this; he is using the ellipsis brilliantly as a device to indicate the state of mind of the poster now that the bumper Afghan poppy crop has reached the Hong Kong opium dens. |
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Aramas
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| I suspect that Scott would do better using a dash for his intended purpose rather than an ellipsis. Anyone that thinks that using a dash to denote continuing after a pause is a recent innovation should read some HG Wells - particularly The Invisible Man. It's riddled with dashes - I quite like them |
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Scott in HK
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I had thought about using the dash, but I find it easier and quicker just to hit the period three times. Maybe, it is time to stir things and graduate on to the 'dash'. I don't know if I have enough Wolfe in me to do both.
Stephen, perhaps this poster is taking into account the state of mind of 'some' posters (not mentioning any names) who perhaps only know about the lastest bumper crop due to their life long friendship with the pipe and realizes, perhaps, that they can only take information in little chunks...
or it could be just something that I started to do for no particular reason... |
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Shaman
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All right, lads. You've kicked each other in the balls enough now, haven't you?
Shaman |
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Boy Wonder
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: OI!! |
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OI.!!!
I fawt this forum is sposed to be about...dating.....I've read the larst few messages..and i wouldn't date the lot of yer...if i was a man..woman..or randy horse...!!
Less of the head up yer arris clevva language showing off...and whatever!
I want to talk abawt dating....chatting up the birds......giving it the large one.....flirting wiv the minxes.....I don't care who they are.....students...teachers...school secretaries....cleaners.....muvvers of snotty nosed kids....sisters of em all as well like....dating ...that's what i'm ere for....I'm a lover of women...I love em...I will chat them all up...whoever they are..wherever they are.....!
The classroom don't present no bounderies to me !!! |
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arioch36
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In Eats, Shoots and Leaves Lynne Truss describes the ellipsis thus:
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So it is true we must keep an eye on the dash - and also the ellipsis (...), which is turning up increasingly in emails as shorthand for "more to come, actually... it might be related to what I've just written... but the main thing is I haven't finished... let's just wait and see... I could go on like this for hours ... "
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Well, I don't know who this Lynne man/woman is, but because she said it makes it right? Language is never suppose to evolve, or adpat to new medums? If it "is turning up increasinly in e-mails" then maybe there is a good reason for it?
Oh oh, I gues I better not use IMHO, or BTW, or any emoticons here at Dave's.
Oh wait, emoticon is a new word ... better not use it  |
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Kurochan
Joined: 01 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 2:43 pm Post subject: Barbara Fartland |
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Was it Barbara Cartland who used to write using tons of ellipses and dashes, like:
Barbara's bosom heaved. "Oh, Paul ... Paul ...."
"Oh -- yes ... Barbara ... My love --"
"Let us go into the bushes and --"
"Oh Paul -- yes ..."
She was related to Princess Diana somehow, right? |
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alibaba
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:46 am Post subject: mmm |
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nonsense roger. I know lots of people from the eikaiwa world happily dating/engaged to and married to students. Relationships develop in all kinds of ways. If the more "moral" of you (for moral read self righteous) think there is anything wrong with this I would assume you are a NOVA trainer. By the way their rule regarding this issue is also illegal as stated by the osaka bar association.
As for dating highschool kids obviously a totally different issue. I know for a fact that there are many a J.T. is involved in this kind of thing. Personally I find it distasteful and feel that this is an abuse of power. But i think it is a fair point that was made at the beginning about imposing our values or sexual morals upon another. People develop at different ages and if someone of a legal age makes a consensual decision it is up to them.
I have to say that so far on the posting boards I have noticed an general moral majority, conservative ..... just toe the company line type atmosphere. This is a little saddening. I would like to see these views challenged a bit more often.
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