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steviok85
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: Teacher evaluation forms |
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Maybe I am being over-sensitive, but these things make me a little uneasy, especially when, after a smooth September-December, one or two complaints have come in. Apparently, I am 'too serious', and the lessons are getting 'boring' etc. Anyway, I do not see the point in these things because the Director will always know if something is wrong. At least, that is what the Director told me at a previous school, and I tend to agree because things are said before written on a silly form.
Why are people still paying money if one is rated as a '3/5'? Just an example. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Dear steviok85,
Please understand that I am not trying to insult you in any way. It's just that, in my experience, how one feels about "Teacher Evaluation Forms" often depends on how one is rated.
I don't think I can recall any teacher who was rated very highly ever complaining about them.
Regards,
John |
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steviok85
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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I don't even know how I have been rated yet, and I rather don't care. But, generally, things are good I feel.
Just wanted to raise the topic. |
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fladude
Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 432
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
I don't think I can recall any teacher who was rated very highly ever complaining about them.
Regards,
John |
I have to disagree. I've gotten good and bad evaluations. Over all I don't have a problem being evaluated even though I do consider it to be the opinion of only one person. I do notice that my poorer evaluations all come from the same person who doesn't like me. Having said that, I find the forms to have a lot of questions on them which just don't make any sense and don't offer anything that the teacher could use. This is especially true on longer forms (say 6 pages). Many of the questions at the end become moronic and/or useless.
Such as "Is the teacher incorporating district CORE standards?"
I have no idea what that means. I do know that I was not (according to one evaluator). Since this was just one question out of six pages, I didn't let it worry me. But I did write a letter to the district asking what this was and how I could teach according to CORE standards. I have not received a response.
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steviok85
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Questions for business and not about teaching, unfortunately. At least from what I have seen today.
: 'Do you plan to continue learning at our school?' Something along those lines. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Dear steviok85,
Well, there do, I think, have to be some ways of assessing teachers "performance," and I, for one, would much prefer to be assessed by a method that used a whole battery of input: peer evaluations, student evaluations, students' progress, administrative evaluations, etc. than be assessed by one person (who may base that assessment solely on how much he/she happens to like/dislike you.)
Regards,
John |
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artemisia

Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 875 Location: the world
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:59 am Post subject: |
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A range of ways of evaluating a teacher's performance is the fairest. In TEFL, in particular, it does often come down to whether or not the students like you. This is generally true of language schools but it's an important element in many types of schools. (That's not to say that if someone writes 'boring' it means they don't like you as it depends on the overall feedback).
Being liked by your students does help create a more conducive learning atmosphere but in terms of running a business it so often has more to do with getting and retaining numbers. Students who expect all English language lessons to be entertaining at all times judge on that basis - (or even how cute they think the teacher is!) - and not on how well a teacher knows the subject matter and can explain etc. It's this aspect of TEFL that I dislike but I associate it more with 'cowboy' schools. The more 'serious' the learning institution, the more respect and genuine appreciation you're likely to be given.
steviok85:
Rather than waiting for official evaluations to be done, you could conduct your own informal, mini ones from time to time if you don't already. This could be in written form and/or just as a general discussion if they have the language ability for that. Leaving aside issues of 'pleasing' everyone, it is useful to get feedback from your class as it can give you some important information as to whether you need to vary activities and do more/less of something. You say you feel things are going well and I'd go with that but no harm in getting some direct info yourself. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:37 am Post subject: |
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This is one of the student evaluation forms that I use:
Teacher Evaluation by Students: Teacher�s name: ________________________
The number rating: 1 = rarely; 2 = sometimes; 3 = usually; 4 = almost always
Circle the answer that fits with your experience of this teacher for each item. Please add comments if you'd like to.
1 Teacher is prepared for class. 1 2 3 4
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2 Teacher knows his/her subjects. 1 2 3 4
_______________________________________________________________________________________
3 Teacher is organized and neat. 1 2 3 4
_______________________________________________________________________________________
4 Teacher plans class time and assignments that help students to problem solve and think critically. Teacher provides activities that make subject matter meaningful.
1 2 3 4
_______________________________________________________________________________________
5 Teacher is flexible in accommodating for individual student needs. 1 2 3 4
_______________________________________________________________________________________
6 Teacher is clear in giving directions and on explaining what is expected on assignments 1 2 3 4
________________________________________________________________________________________
7 Teacher allows you to participate in the classroom learning environment. 1 2 3 4
________________________________________________________________________________________
8 Teacher manages the time well. 1 2 3 4
________________________________________________________________________________________
9 Teacher returns work in a timely manner. 1 2 3 4
_________________________________________________________________________________________
10 Teacher has clear classroom procedures so students don't waste time. 1 2 3 4
_________________________________________________________________________________________
11 Teacher grades fairly. 1 2 3 4
_________________________________________________________________________________________
12 I have learned a lot from this teacher. 1 2 3 4
_________________________________________________________________________________________
13 Teacher gives me good feedback on work so that I can improve. 1 2 3 4
__________________________________________________________________________________________
14 Teacher is creative in developing activities and lessons. 1 2 3 4
__________________________________________________________________________________________
15 Teacher encourages students to speak up and be active in the class. 1 2 3 4
__________________________________________________________________________________________
16 Teacher follows through on what he/she says. You can count on the teacher�s word. 1 2 3 4
Please turn this page over and continue.
17 Teacher listens and understands students� point of view; he/she may not agree, but students feel understood.
1 2 3 4
____________________________________________________________________________________________
18 Teacher respects the opinions and decisions of students. 1 2 3 4
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19 Teacher is willing to accept responsibility for his/her own mistakes. 1 2 3 4
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20 Teacher is willing to learn from students. 1 2 3 4
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21 Teacher is sensitive to the needs of students. 1 2 3 4
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22 Teacher�s words and actions match. 1 2 3 4
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23 Teacher is fun to be with. 1 2 3 4
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24 Teacher likes and respects students. 1 2 3 4
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25 Teacher helps you when you ask for help. 1 2 3 4
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26 Teacher is consistent and fair in discipline. 1 2 3 4
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27 I trust this teacher. 1 2 3 4
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28 Teacher tries to model what teacher expects of students. 1 2 3 4
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29 Teacher is fair and firm without being too strict. 1 2 3 4
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30 What is one thing that your teacher does really well?
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31 What is one thing that you can suggest to help this teacher improve?
____________________________________________________________________________________________
32 What would you like to see changed in this ESL class?
____________________________________________________________________________________________
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Thank you for taking the time to think through the items carefully and write down your thoughts honestly.
Regards,
John |
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basiltherat
Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Hi
I believe evaluation forms are good for 2 particular reasons;
1. It lets the instructor know the aspects of his teaching that could potentially be improved. I think it is more for the instructor himself - than anyone else - to take an interest in the 'results'. Where I am, the instructor is left alone to consider the results of the evaluation. In the majority of cases, we do, however, expect (if only ultimately) that the teacher is mostly judged as 'excellent' rather than simply 'good'
2. If such evaluations are done prior to the exam, it often denies a student the opportunity to unjustly 'blame' the teacher for poor results in a final exam. After all, if the evaluation is 'good' (or preferably, 'excellent' ), how can the student turn around after the exam and claim that the reason he failed was because the instructor was 'poor' ?
Best
Basil |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Hey there-
I just wanted to chime in with this- I've been teaching for a rather long time, and have had consistently high student evaluations. I must be brilliant. Or maybe it's just that I'm sort of funny. Or handsome. I don't know.
So I'm not objecting to student evaluations because they negatively affect me. Quite the contrary.
I'm objecting to them, not in theory (they could be good), but in practice: Most student evaluations of teachers are absolutely useless for improving teaching. Heck, a lot of them seem to be useless practically by design. Some flaws I've seen:
1) Circumstances lead students to often answer not as honestly as they can, but within their own bias. (If I'm in danger of failing, I won't say "grades fairly," will I?)
2) They ask students to evaluate things that are outside of their competence. ("The teacher presents all aspects of the curriculum in a balanced way," is something I've seen on an eval to be ranked from one to five. Most students haven't even read "all aspects of the curriculum.")
3) Too often, it's the only chance students have to express themselves about teachers- so they use them to express what doesn't quite fit on them: THere is no blank for "wouldn't grade all of my late assignments" so instead the teacher gets marked down for "I feel my teacher cares about my learning."
4) They don't take the students into account. Who are these people? Honestly- I've had students try to control the teacher by threatening her with bad reviews. Doesn't work when I am in charge. But it would work in a lot of places I know of. Is it good for education when the teacher, on the first day, meets a bunch of students who tell him that "I know you're supposed to keep track of attendance- but if we aren't marked present every day, we'll make sure your contract doesn't get re-signed?" It happens.
5) They are then read by people who are so far outside of the classroom that they no longer remember what goes on there. A good teacher probably needs to be at least somewhat popular, most of the time- it gets the students on side. But it doesn't follow that a popular teacher is good. Many aren't- and what student evals tell you is often just "Who's popular." It's only part of the story, but too many schools react to it like the whole story.
Best,
Justin |
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fladude
Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 432
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Justin Trullinger wrote: |
But it doesn't follow that a popular teacher is good. Many aren't- and what student evals tell you is often just "Who's popular." It's only part of the story, but too many schools react to it like the whole story.
Best,
Justin |
I agree completely and as proof, I offer up the fact that I am routinely picked as the most popular teacher (behind the shop teacher) in my high school. This in itself proves that being a popular teacher proves next to nothing. |
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1st Sgt Welsh

Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 946 Location: Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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fladude wrote: |
I've gotten good and bad evaluations. Over all I don't have a problem being evaluated even though I do consider it to be the opinion of only one person. I do notice that my poorer evaluations all come from the same person who doesn't like me. |
Hear, hear! I usually get positive feedback, but I don't sweat it when I get a few negative comments. Last term, for example, out of a class of sixteen, I had one extremely poor student evaluation; the other fifteen were very positive. At our school, the evaluations are confidential, so I can't be 100% sure who it was, but I think I have a pretty good idea.
Anyway this particularly student was a lazy sod and I got the impression from him on day one that he didn't want to be there and he wasn't the least bit interested in improving his English (probably only going to class because his parents made him). I got the vibe he didn't like me, but that was OK because the feeling was mutual. Moreover, some his feedback was a load of nonsense. For example, as to the question as to whether or not I did "adequate group and pair work in class" he ticked "disagree entirely". You can say what you like about my teaching style, but, every opportunity I get, I do pair or group work.
Anyway what I am saying is that you can't please everybody and, even if you could, we are not contestants in a popularity contest. If I was in a school where you had to get excellent student feedback, from every student, every time, I would probably look at working somewhere else. I think, on the whole, student evaluations on teachers can be very useful, but you shouldn't get worked up too much by a few bad comments here and there. Having said that, if you are getting a large portion of your students complaining about the same thing consistently, then it's probably time for a re-think  |
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sistercream
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 497 Location: Pearl River Delta
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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There are evaluations and then there are evaluations. The one I was given that bugged me the most was written by a principal who had never even observed 5 minutes of even one of my classes and only came into our branch school for an hour every week. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:43 am Post subject: |
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johnslat, thanks for the survey. I think I might use some of it this semester, just for my personal records. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Teacher evaluation forms |
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steviok85 wrote: |
Maybe I am being over-sensitive, but these things make me a little uneasy, especially when, after a smooth September-December, one or two complaints have come in. Apparently, I am 'too serious', and the lessons are getting 'boring' etc. Anyway, I do not see the point in these things because the Director will always know if something is wrong. At least, that is what the Director told me at a previous school, and I tend to agree because things are said before written on a silly form.
Why are people still paying money if one is rated as a '3/5'? Just an example. |
You have to develop a thick skin and a keen eye for such things. Example: I was told by the staff at my conversation school that "some students" had complained about the way I was following the text. I pinned down the staff person to finally admit that only one person had complained. Case closed.
Some university or HS evaluations have come back with complaints like "boring" or "not interesting". Extremely rare, fortunately. Since they are anonymous, you don't know the circumstances, and you have to think about that. Perhaps the student was too weak to understand anything about the lesson. Perhaps he was a returnee that wasn't challenged enough. Too many permutations to lose sleep over, but the key is to be sure admin knows it was a rare negative remark and that the reason given is unknown.
Why do people keep coming back with low teacher evaluations? In conversation schools, they often just want to get out of the house, not really learn English. Any break from the norm to socialize. Unless the grade was a1 or 0, they will probably continue. I gave a lesson once where the feedback was interesting. Several students rated it as good or very good. One said it was the best lesson he had ever had. One student said it was the worst. C'est la vie. |
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