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rpc
Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sacramento, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:09 am Post subject: 33-Year-Old With No Qualifications Seeking Work in Tropics |
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Greetings,
I've been perusing this forum off and on for the last few weeks. It's bizarre to finally be writing something; I feel like I already know some of you personally. Hopefully you can offer some insight here.
I lived on Maui, Hawaii for three months last year and had some powerful realizations. I realized that I need to be in near-constant sunlight. I also realized that, when in a tropical environment, even the work day can feel a little bit like vacation. I realized that invigorating sunshine, white Hawaiian sand, turquoise (bath) water, tropical fish, pretty girls and the rhythm of the water rocking me back and forth is supremely therapeutic. I went through some very, very difficult things in 2009 and found a sense of solace in Lahaina.
So I've decided to persue TEFL. To be perfectly honest, my hope, though I do have an abiding interest in both language and teaching, is primarily to sustain myself financially in a tropical enviornment. I've read through forum after forum on here, in to the early hours of the morning, and I've concluded that, since I have no degree or certification of any kind, my best bet for quick results would be to obtain a CELTA and head for an area of the world where an uncredentialed person can reasonably compete for jobs; viz., Mexico, Central America, etc. With that in mind, I stumbled across this opportunity, but am naturally skeptical, because it sounds pretty good: http://tefllife.com/degree
Thailand aside, my question is this: Where in the world could I most likely find a position teaching in an environment similar to Maui's? My goal isn't necessarily to get rich, though I would love to save some money; my goal is more to be rich in the things money can't buy. I value sunshine, tropical beaches, safety, employability, a stable paycheck, opportunities to date women and opportunites to play live music. (I'm a musician). I also value good food, smiling faces and a general heartfelt peacefulness in the people and events around me.
Thanks truly for any help you can offer.
Ryan
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:39 am Post subject: |
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With no credential of any kind and no experience you also have about no chance of finding stable, legal employment as a teacher.
Your link to the degree program was discussed here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=85745&highlight=degree
and in my humble opinion it is virtually worthless and can land you in a Thai jail if you are unlucky.
Assuming you are American I would suggest heading for Mexico city, get a CELTA or other recognized TESL/TEFL/TESOL cert and get a couple years of experience under your belt.
At that point you can either look farther afield or consider upgrading your credentials (DELTA or BA/B.Sc) and start to make a career out of it.
Do be aware however that being on vacation in some tropical paradise is NOT THE SAME as living and working there. The location may be a change from the snow and cold but the daily grind is the same.
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rpc
Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sacramento, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Gotcha.
Do you have any information about International House's CELTA program in Playa Del Carman, Mexico? I wonder if I could do that and then search Mexico and Central America for work.
Wish I could work in the Caribbean or the Mediterranean, but I'm sure that's not gunna happen. |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:14 am Post subject: |
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rpc wrote: |
Gotcha.
Do you have any information about International House's CELTA program in Playa Del Carman, Mexico? I wonder if I could do that and then search Mexico and Central America for work.
Wish I could work in the Caribbean or the Mediterranean, but I'm sure that's not gunna happen. |
IH has a good reputation globally and CELTA is accredited by Cambridge University so the credential is worthwhile globally as well.
You may not find an island paradise and certainly won't find work in the Med without at least a masters degree or UK passport but there are lots of places along the coast in Mexico, central America and northern South America where work (albeit not that well paid) is an option.
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LH123
Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 61
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I think there is more or less a common consensus of opinion everywhere that, as a first step into ELT, the CELTA is a good move.
So where could you work in the tropics with just a CELTA?
I'd say....
Continental Central America (Mexico, Honduras, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Costa Rica, etc...)
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South-East Asia (Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, etc...)
(Some countries, for visa purposes, will insist on a first degree of course. I don't have a list to hand of which do and which don't, the countries mentioned above are just examples, really.)
As another poster said, The Mediterranean is a lot trickier, there's not much going on in the Caribbean Islands, and I've never heard of anyone doing TEFL in Africa, the Pacific, or the Indian subcontinent.
As to the relative benefits and drawbacks of TEFL in CA/SEA, that might be the fodder for another thread... |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 1520 Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Continental Central America (Mexico, Honduras, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Costa Rica, etc...)
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FYI, Mexico is not in Central America but North America. |
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LH123
Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 61
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Zero
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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rich in the things money can't buy |
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opportunities to date women |
Somehow the ladies seem to prefer the other kind of rich ... |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 1520 Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Zero wrote: |
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Somehow the ladies seem to prefer the other kind of rich ... |
Which ladies are these?
Surely not self-sufficient expat English teachers . |
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rpc
Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sacramento, California
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:16 am Post subject: |
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tttompatz wrote: |
rpc wrote: |
Gotcha.
Do you have any information about International House's CELTA program in Playa Del Carman, Mexico? I wonder if I could do that and then search Mexico and Central America for work.
Wish I could work in the Caribbean or the Mediterranean, but I'm sure that's not gunna happen. |
IH has a good reputation globally and CELTA is accredited by Cambridge University so the credential is worthwhile globally as well.
You may not find an island paradise and certainly won't find work in the Med without at least a masters degree or UK passport but there are lots of places along the coast in Mexico, central America and northern South America where work (albeit not that well paid) is an option.
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Are you familiar enough with coastal Mexico and/or Central America to suggest places that may have exceptional beaches and TEFL work opportunities for someone with a CELTA? |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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rpc wrote: |
tttompatz wrote: |
rpc wrote: |
Gotcha.
Do you have any information about International House's CELTA program in Playa Del Carman, Mexico? I wonder if I could do that and then search Mexico and Central America for work.
Wish I could work in the Caribbean or the Mediterranean, but I'm sure that's not gunna happen. |
IH has a good reputation globally and CELTA is accredited by Cambridge University so the credential is worthwhile globally as well.
You may not find an island paradise and certainly won't find work in the Med without at least a masters degree or UK passport but there are lots of places along the coast in Mexico, central America and northern South America where work (albeit not that well paid) is an option.
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Are you familiar enough with coastal Mexico and/or Central America to suggest places that may have exceptional beaches and TEFL work opportunities for someone with a CELTA? |
No. You should post in the Mexico forum for area specifics.
The last time I was in Mexico (about 10 years ago), anyplace that had great beaches either had no demand for a teacher or was full of long-stay tourists who would teach cheap to extend their stay on said beach.
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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tttompatz wrote: |
rpc wrote: |
tttompatz wrote: |
rpc wrote: |
Gotcha.
Do you have any information about International House's CELTA program in Playa Del Carman, Mexico? I wonder if I could do that and then search Mexico and Central America for work.
Wish I could work in the Caribbean or the Mediterranean, but I'm sure that's not gunna happen. |
IH has a good reputation globally and CELTA is accredited by Cambridge University so the credential is worthwhile globally as well.
You may not find an island paradise and certainly won't find work in the Med without at least a masters degree or UK passport but there are lots of places along the coast in Mexico, central America and northern South America where work (albeit not that well paid) is an option.
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Are you familiar enough with coastal Mexico and/or Central America to suggest places that may have exceptional beaches and TEFL work opportunities for someone with a CELTA? |
No. You should post in the Mexico forum for area specifics.
The last time I was in Mexico (about 10 years ago), anyplace that had great beaches either had no demand for a teacher or was full of long-stay tourists who would teach cheap to extend their stay on said beach.
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You hit the nail on the head. All of the Mexican beach resorts are full of tourists turned beach bums wanting to stay as long as possible. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Isla Guapa wrote: |
LH123 wrote: |
Continental Central America (Mexico, Honduras, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Costa Rica, etc...) |
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FYI, Mexico is not in Central America but North America. |
BUt still part of Latin America, correct? |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 1520 Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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naturegirl321 wrote: |
Isla Guapa wrote: |
LH123 wrote: |
Continental Central America (Mexico, Honduras, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Costa Rica, etc...) |
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FYI, Mexico is not in Central America but North America. |
BUt still part of Latin America, correct? |
Obviously! Even worse than saying that Mexico is in Central America is what I would sometimes here in Europe, that Mexico was in South America.  |
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Leila51360
Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 12 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Mexico still is in North America  |
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