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Jack Walker



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:21 am    Post subject: Proofreading fee Reply with quote

A gentleman asked me to proofread his chemistry journal article submission.It is about 35 pages in length.He asked me what my fee is.

I've never proofread for a fee before. so I don't know what the going rate is?

Any advice?
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lundjstuart



Joined: 01 Jul 2008
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Location: Warsaw, Poland

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Proofreading fee Reply with quote

Jack Walker wrote:
A gentleman asked me to proofread his chemistry journal article submission.It is about 35 pages in length.He asked me what my fee is.

I've never proofread for a fee before. so I don't know what the going rate is?

Any advice?


charge him an hourly rate or per page, I charge about 30-50 per page depending on how much free time I have and how much I need the money!
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Proofreading fee Reply with quote

lundjstuart wrote:
Jack Walker wrote:
A gentleman asked me to proofread his chemistry journal article submission.It is about 35 pages in length.He asked me what my fee is.

I've never proofread for a fee before. so I don't know what the going rate is?

Any advice?


charge him an hourly rate or per page, I charge about 30-50 per page depending on how much free time I have and how much I need the money!






I think by the page is a better option.You've gotten 50zl per page before? Seems steep.
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maniak



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50zl is really steep.

For proofreading if it is actually real proofreading and not correcting a google translation I take a base 15zl per 1200 letters (about a page). If a page requires serious revision I charge it as if translation. If its in a rush I take 1.5x or 2x the total.
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lundjstuart



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A girl asked me to correct her master's thesis, I only had 24 hours to do it and I worked for 14 of out of the 24 hours available. So, as a result, I charged a steep price so that she would turn me down but instead, took the bait and I was a couple K richer the next day! Laughing
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scottie1113



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proofreading lengthy professional articles is a major pain. I've done proofreading in tandem with two of my Polish teacher friends to compare the original Polish version with the translation, and twice they couldn't understand what the author was saying in Polish. The translation was worse.

Wait until you come across a 500 word sentence with weird irrelevant clauses stuck in at random and which seemingly refer to nothing and you'll see what I mean. Academicians are the worst. I won't do that again! Good luck, and let us know about your experience.

I don't remember what we charged but it seemed like a reasonable amount at the time. Even if we had charged four times as much it wouldn't have been worth it.
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maniak



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one of those too, made 1500zl on a weekend Smile
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dynow



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i started a thread for this very reason back in September of last year.

i had over 100 pages to proofread. the first thing I did was ask the client to send me a page or two of the paper so I could see what I was getting myself into. like others said on this forum, proofreading is different than making lengthy revisions, it takes waaaaay more time and is waaaaay more frustrating. if you look at a page of the paper and it's mostly articles, the occasional verb tense, spelling error, etc., then you charge accordingly.

also, you need to find out how much correspondence you will need to have with the student during the whole thing. can you do it, submit it to that person, and be done with it, or will there be a never-ending email ping-pong asking why you did this and that? again, this adds time to the assignment.

so what I would recommend is to first ask the client what they expect from you EXACTLY.

i charged I think 17-18zl. per 2000 characters, not letters, meaning that includes spaces. i thought it would get turned down because of the total cost the paper added up to, but I got the job. fact of the matter is, if my client had gone to a translation agency they would have paid twice as much and certainly wouldn't have gotten all the correspondence time I offered during the process, and I made the client aware of that when I told them my price.
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:
i started a thread for this very reason back in September of last year.

i had over 100 pages to proofread. the first thing I did was ask the client to send me a page or two of the paper so I could see what I was getting myself into. like others said on this forum, proofreading is different than making lengthy revisions, it takes waaaaay more time and is waaaaay more frustrating. if you look at a page of the paper and it's mostly articles, the occasional verb tense, spelling error, etc., then you charge accordingly.

also, you need to find out how much correspondence you will need to have with the student during the whole thing. can you do it, submit it to that person, and be done with it, or will there be a never-ending email ping-pong asking why you did this and that? again, this adds time to the assignment.

so what I would recommend is to first ask the client what they expect from you EXACTLY.

i charged I think 17-18zl. per 2000 characters, not letters, meaning that includes spaces. i thought it would get turned down because of the total cost the paper added up to, but I got the job. fact of the matter is, if my client had gone to a translation agency they would have paid twice as much and certainly wouldn't have gotten all the correspondence time I offered during the process, and I made the client aware of that when I told them my price.






I'm waiting to receive this document by email, so I really don't know what I'm getting into yet.

This bloke is a former student of mine, so I think I will charge 10-15zl per page.He told me just to make basic grammar and vocab changes, but we all know that this can be a lot of work and sometimes results in basically re-writing the whole text.

I'll wait to see what I'm getting before i give him a price.

I'll keep you updated.
Jack
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silesia



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I charge an hourly rate roughly equivalent to my teaching rate.They have to trust me when I tell them how long I took over their proofreading.I havent had any problems with this system to date.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:
i charged I think 17-18zl. per 2000 characters, not letters, meaning that includes spaces. i thought it would get turned down because of the total cost the paper added up to, but I got the job. fact of the matter is, if my client had gone to a translation agency they would have paid twice as much and certainly wouldn't have gotten all the correspondence time I offered during the process, and I made the client aware of that when I told them my price.


Roughly how many pages is 2000 characters, size 12 font, single spaced?
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For any type of editing job, I ask to see some sample pages first. After seeing how those samples are written, I can make my own estimate of how much time the job will take for a complete edit. I then supply an hourly rate to the client, or I give the client a total fee -- both of these based on my past experience.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mastershake wrote:

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Roughly how many pages is 2000 characters, size 12 font, single spaced?


it was 6-7 months ago so I'm struggling to remember, but the paper was I believe 10 font, double spaced???.....so 2000 characters was about a page and a half.

Henry_Cowell wrote:

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For any type of editing job, I ask to see some sample pages first.


absolutely. it's the only way. no different than when you take on a new private and ask what the student needs. some students want nothing more than an hour of BS'ing, some students want to send you home with HW and writing assignments and other stuff that takes up a teacher's time.
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget that "proofreading" to most people really means "editing." You are actually fixing things that the writer got wrong, whether it's a punctuation mark, subject-verb agreement, a complete sentence, or paragraph cohesion and transitions. It can be just a light edit, or it can be a substantive edit -- depending on the quality of the original writing.

Traditional "proofreading" is something different: comparing typeset pages to an original manuscript to make sure that nothing has been left out or keyboarded incorrectly. It's a very different kind of job.
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victoriaw



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's true, I had many misunderstandings with the terms 'proofreading', 'editing' and 'correction'. Generally what happens is that what needs to be corrected is punctuation errors, grammatical errors. Rarely discussions arise about the meanings and sentence construction. It is primarily about a second view on a text or document which the author has worked in.
It amazes me how different are the price ranges you mention, I think what does it change so much is the relation with the customer.




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