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sabina



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies, everyone!! I was curious because I don't have many grocery stores in my area and the main store charges more than I am used to paying back home. (And I'm not from the continental US, either.)
One more question: has anyone ever seen brown rice in a big bag? I've just been able to get it in a 2 kilo pack. Thankfully it's the same price as white rice. I know it isn't popular here but I would be delighted to find out that someone managed to buy it in bulk.
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inuzuki8605



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Let's not debate and berate the issue of living on such a small amount of money for food. I think most people will be interested in knowing how you did it and may have qualms about various aspects, but in the long run, I think you have described how you did it well enough.

Now, if the OP wants to go that route, he has the basics. I think most people will not choose such a lifestyle and should consider an average figure higher than that.


Agreed, just try to get the sales and you'll be fine. I eat very well when i'm cooking for just me. Good luck OP!
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torontogirl88



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is 1000-2000 yen per day actually reasonable? I'd probably be eating at restaurants every day.

I LOVE Japanese food, and I heard it was expensive over there?

I'm a pretty small girl, but I eat A LOT.

I absolutely love sushi. Is it cheaper over there or something?

To get an idea of how much I should budget - How much would one roll of sushi be? Or, how much would one order of saba/mackarel sashimi be?

Thank you Smile
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

torontogirl88 wrote:
Is 1000-2000 yen per day actually reasonable?
IMO, I'd say no for the average person.

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I'd probably be eating at restaurants every day.
This is equally more unreasonable to me. Why on earth would you be forced to do that?

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I LOVE Japanese food, and I heard it was expensive over there?
Not always. Depends on what you eat and how good a shopper you are and where you shop.

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I absolutely love sushi. Is it cheaper over there or something?
Cheaper than where? How much do you pay where you are?

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To get an idea of how much I should budget - [b]How much would one roll of sushi be?
That depends on the sushi and whether you choose to buy it in the supermarket (can't get one roll), a sushi restaurant, or a "conveyor belt" sushi restaurant (kaiten-zushi). In a kaitan-zushi, they come in 2 pieces, and you can expect 100 to 400 yen depending on what you choose.
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the4th2001



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One more question: has anyone ever seen brown rice in a big bag? I've just been able to get it in a 2 kilo pack. Thankfully it's the same price as white rice.


I haven't seen too many bags larger than 5 kg in Tokyo and they typically run about 500 JPY/5 kg more than white rice. My friend lives in some small town in Chiba and he says he can find it for about 1~200 JPY more than white rice. If you live near a Costco you may be able to find what you want.

For a list of locations, check out http://www.costco.co.jp/eng/whs_860.htm .

Any way though, good luck find cheap brown rice. If you do, shoot me a PM. I've been searching for a while now.

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Is 1000-2000 yen per day actually reasonable?


I've been able to live off of 2,000 JPY a week in downtown Tokyo. There's a small grocery store chain called Maruman that has daily specials. For example: 100g of chicken for 50 JPY, 100g of beef for 100 JPY, 10 large eggs for 150 JPY, variety of vegetables that sell in different package sizes for 1~200 JPY each, a variety of fish starting from 100 to 500 JPY. Then there's Donki for cheap white rice (roughly 2,000 JPY/10 kg) and Shinokubo for other inexpensive vegetables, meats, sauces, etc.

If you know your area well, shop when there are sales, and cook at home, then it's absolutely doable. Like I've written before, that 2,000 JPY/week bought +3,000 calories/day of relatively healthy food.

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I'd probably be eating at restaurants every day.


Even in the smallest town I can't see anyone being able to do this for 1~2000 JPY/week. Eating out three times a day at the cheapest chains in Tokyo on that budget and you'll be lucky to make it three days. I think it's safe to say the same of any other relatively large city in Japan.

** Sorry, I just noticed that you wrote 1~2000 JPY/day for eating out. Selective reading. My bad. **

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I LOVE Japanese food, and I heard it was expensive over there?


There's more to Japanese food than sushi. A lot more.


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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

torontogirl88 wrote:
Is 1000-2000 yen per day actually reasonable? I'd probably be eating at restaurants every day.

I LOVE Japanese food, and I heard it was expensive over there?

I'm a pretty small girl, but I eat A LOT.

I absolutely love sushi. Is it cheaper over there or something?

To get an idea of how much I should budget - How much would one roll of sushi be? Or, how much would one order of saba/mackarel sashimi be?

Thank you Smile


I wouldn't say sushi is that cheap here- Glenski's prices are accurate, but as I'm sure you know, Japanese food goes way beyond sushi. Bowls of noodles, tonkatsu or tempura on rice, beef bowls etc are really cheap here because the shops are all in such fierce competition with each other- 500-700 yen for a full meal of any of the above (at the cheapest places which are often stand-up- of course you can pay a lot more) isn't unusual.

1,000 yen a day if you plan to only eat out probably isn't going to be possible. 2,000 yen perhaps if you stick to only the cheapest places as I mentioned above.

To answer sabina's question about brown rice, we eat quite a lot of it and I don't think I have ever seen it in bags bigger than 2kg. You might be able to get bigger bags if you have an actual rice shop near you- they are usually small family-run places with 米店 on their sign, people usually call them okomeyasan (お米屋さん) when talking about them though.
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move



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm budgeting myself to spend about 5,000 a week for food, so about 20,000 a month. I shop at the discount grocery store, cook all my meals at home (except for 1 or 2 meals I eat out on the weekend, which isn't included in the above 5,000).
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remember that groceries count for more than just food. Toiletries, paper supplies (aluminum foil, saran wrap, paper towels, etc.), soaps and detergents and other cleaners, and more.
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Tuan



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inuzuki8605 wrote:
Yes! A year ago, it was like that. There was always a certain time of day like, you go after 16:30 or something and could get really cheap meat and other stuff that they wanted to sell that day.

Good to hear they still give last minute discounts, those meals probably saved me from starvation a couple of times. The only reason why I went 30 minutes before closing was because their was still a good selection and I wasn't going to try my luck waiting.


inuzuki8605 wrote:
Half the battle to food shopping in Japan is knowing where to go and what time. ^_^

Isn't that the truth. I would scope out the sales at my closest supermarket for that week and then tell my coworkers. My coworkers do the same and we kind of make a list of what we want from each other and hand off the cash. Since me and my coworkers shop at our respected stores a few times a week it wasn't that much of an inconvenience. I probably saved a bit of money doing it but all of it went to our Friday Happy Hours Wink
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in the Chiba 'burbs. I make my own breakfast, bento box lunch and dinner most days, and eat out once or twice a week. For a single person, teishoku, set menu, is reasonably priced, between 500-1000 yen, and dining out with friends usually costs about 3000 yen. I figure my food budget is closer to 30,000 yen.

I second what Apsara said about genmai, brown rice. My local rice seller fills my okomebitsu, a 100 yen plastic box for under 1000 yen.

The rice seller may warn you off buying in larger quantities. Genmai is much less processed than white rice, so it can spoil. A good rule of thumb is to buy only 2-3 kg at a time.

Again, what Apsara said - budget about 2000 yen a day if you eat out most of the time. And mind your health - you will need to supplement fruit and veg to get adequate nutrition. I met a woman who subsisted on bentos and cheap standup food and it put her in hospital with a vitamin defficiency.
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torontogirl88



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably won't eat out ALL the time. I exaggerated a bit there. But, I really do enjoy eating at restaurants, and I see my self eating out a few times a week.

I'm worried I won't have enough money for food. Oh well, I'll just lose a few pounds Smile As long as there's some places with sushi that's affordable, I'm good. ps. I definitely know there is A LOT more to Japanese cuisine than sushi, but sushi is definitely my favourite thing in the world Smile and soft shell crab... yumm!! and miso cod!!! ok, I'll stop here .. I can go on and on!
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

re:brown rice
Ever seen one of these before? Perhaps they offer what you want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rice_vending_machine.jpg
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sabina



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
re:brown rice
Ever seen one of these before? Perhaps they offer what you want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rice_vending_machine.jpg

Oh that's so cool!! No, I have never seen one of those!! But now I will be on the lookout....
Oh and if anyone is worried about brown rice spoiling just put it in the fridge. Whole grains keep for a long time if they are properly refrigerated.
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, usually, only spend about 4000 ~ 5000 yen a week on groceries. I usually stick to stuff like chicken breast, fish, broccoli, carrots, onion, eggs, milk, fruit (mostly apples), cheese, rice (but I usually get a 2kg bag, and that can last me about two to three weeks), sometimes curry, etc.

I tend to go overboard, though, if I go to a conbini. I always end up spending close to 1000 yen for "convenient foods" or snacks, then again, I guess it balances out since I don't do it often, and it usually lasts a while.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We spend between �1000-�1500 a day to feed a family of five.
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