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zaser45



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:11 pm    Post subject: letters and such Reply with quote

What happens if you can't get a release letter or the recommendation letter from your previous employer for visa processing?
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then you can't legally work in a new school until your original contract would expire, I believe.
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dog backwards



Joined: 27 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: letters and such Reply with quote

zaser45 wrote:
What happens if you can't get a release letter or the recommendation letter from your previous employer for visa processing?


If you are not in China, just leave the former employer's name off your CV. If you are IN China, and you mean that you need a new RP in order to stay in China and work for another Chinese employer, that's a different situation.

AFAIK, a letter of recommendation isn't required by new employers. You need the release form. If you are no longer employed by that employer, then I see no reason why you would be refused the release letter.

Ask for a release. If you have been refused one, it's quite possible that your FAO or employer just doesn't know what it is.
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mat chen



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also a way of getting rid of unpaid employees. You must leave the country and therefore have no ways of getting any retribution. A keeping of social harmony and wealth. Be like the Mormons and get a good Taiwan lawyer before you come here.
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west2east



Joined: 03 May 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:07 am    Post subject: Re: letters and such Reply with quote

zaser45 wrote:
What happens if you can't get a release letter or the recommendation letter from your previous employer for visa processing?


If the law is being followed then an employer is obliged to issue you with an officially stamped letter of release, even if a teacher has been fired. There should also be a letter of recommendation though it seems this is not strictly enforced in some second tier cities.

Unofficially, gaining employment without the above documents is possible if your new employer is 'connected' enough. Though it would seem that this is becoming more difficult in more recent times. I would suggest you call your current/old school in very diplomatic terms and even get your potential new employer to call them too. Leaving your current/past employer off your CV will not cut it as your current/expired RP will be associated with your name.
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dog backwards



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...Leaving your current/past employer off your CV will not cut it as your current/expired RP will be associated with your name."

I got the royal shaft and the bum's rush from an employer and was dropped off at the airport in three days for no reason. I got no release.

I reapplied to another school when I was stateside. I left the previous employer off the CV. I applied for--- and was given--- a new Z visa. When I arrived in China, I went to the PSB for the new RP there were no problems whatsoever. Not a question, not a peep. **

**Mileage may differ.
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west2east



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dog backwards wrote:
"...Leaving your current/past employer off your CV will not cut it as your current/expired RP will be associated with your name."

I got the royal shaft and the bum's rush from an employer and was dropped off at the airport in three days for no reason. I got no release.

I reapplied to another school when I was stateside. I left the previous employer off the CV. I applied for--- and was given--- a new Z visa. When I arrived in China, I went to the PSB for the new RP there were no problems whatsoever. Not a question, not a peep. **

**Mileage may differ.


Yes poppet. There are reasons why you were able to get a new Z visa. Once you become more familiar with what is legal and what actually occurs in reality in this place, you'll figure that wading through the red tape can give you all kinds of results irrespective of what is legal and what is not.
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samhouston



Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dog backwards wrote:
I reapplied to another school when I was stateside. I left the previous employer off the CV. I applied for--- and was given--- a new Z visa. When I arrived in China, I went to the PSB for the new RP there were no problems whatsoever. Not a question, not a peep.


My understanding is that the release letter is only needed if you are going from the old RP to a new RP/employer without leaving China. Seems to me if you go home and get a new Z-visa sent to you from a different employer (hence canceling out the previous RP) you would have no need for a release letter.
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