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8.8 Earthquake & Tsunami Hit Japan
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyer wrote:
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Radioactivity in water at Fukushima reactor No. 2 is 10 million times usual level; workers evacuated - local media via Reuters


Not sure if you've all heard that TEPCO retracted this yesterday evening and said their readings had been mistaken about the figure of 10 million, it was actually 100,000 times normal. Neither the idea that they got their readings wrong or the idea of it "only" being 100,000 times the usual level is particularly confidence-inspiring though, is it.

Yukio Edano the government spokesman was not happy with TEPCO and told them in his next press conference in quite strong terms that they had to sort themselves out and not pass on erroneous data.
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TL



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radiation Found Outside Japan Reactor, Signaling Meltdown

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Plutonium-239, a byproduct of fission used in nuclear weapons, was found in soil samples taken on the plant site March 21 and March 22, Tokyo Electric said in a statement today. Two of the five samples contained more plutonium than known to have been deposited by atmospheric nuclear-bomb fallout and probably came from the damaged plant, according to the statement.

The amount found shouldn�t be enough to affect human health, Sakae Muto, a Tokyo Electric vice president, said at a press conference yesterday.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-28/radiation-level-outside-damaged-japan-reactor-may-cause-death-within-hours.html
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flyer



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radiation is obviously a bad thing and all should be done to avoid any leakage but things must be put into context, as so many people get carried away

Far more people will die this year (or the next 10 years) from tabacco related products than radiation!
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyer wrote:
Radiation is obviously a bad thing and all should be done to avoid any leakage but things must be put into context, as so many people get carried away

Far more people will die this year (or the next 10 years) from tabacco related products than radiation!


To put things in proper context for you, flyer, radiation levels in both Sendai and Natori are still at levels that will not affect health Very Happy

The level is 0.14 sv/h in Sendai and 0.16 sv/h in Natori. I was worried about returning to Watari, which is measuring about 0.28 sv/h; but my dispatch company notified me yesterday that the Watari BoE would not be able to renew my contract because of the damage from the quake. One elementary school and one junior high school have been knocked out of commission.

Now looking for work in Sapporo, Iwate (Morioka), and Sendai (Izumi Ward).
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TL



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Workers at stricken nuclear plant endure tough conditions

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-Each of the employees of Tokyo Electric Power Co and other workers engaged in containing damage at the stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is given 30 survival food crackers and a 180 milliliter pack of vegetable juice for breakfast after getting up just before 6 a.m.

-The workers are given no lunch.

-Until March 22, they were given only one 1.5 liter bottle of mineral water per day. From March 23, however, with more supplies having arrived, they can ask for one more bottle, according to the official.

-Supper is also survival food item�dried rice and only one can of chicken or fish for each person. Boiled mineral water is put into the pack of ��Magic Rice,�� making it ready for consumption in about 15 minutes. The workers eat their meals quietly, though some say they want something a little better.

-Kaieda said that he had also heard that not all of the workers had been equipped with lead sheeting to shield themselves from the possibly radiation-contaminated floors while sleeping, and some were leaning against walls as they were unable to lie down on floors.

http://japantoday.com/category/national/view/workers-at-stricken-nuclear-plant-endure-tough-conditions

If this is true then I have lost all hope in TEPCO. How can they solve a nuclear crisis if they can't even provide a proper diet to the workers? If TEPCO is the best Japan has in dealing with this situation then we can say good bye to the Northern part of Honshu. Unbelievable!
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flyer



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the northern part of Honshu?

The very north is fine!
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyer wrote:
Why the northern part of Honshu?

The very north is fine!


Agreed. Yamagata, Akita, Aomori, and the northern part of Iwate will be fine. Even Sendai is still fine radiation-wise as of now.
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flyer



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putting into somekind of context

An example of a measured dose (not simulated dose), is 6 μSv per hour from flying from London Heathrow to Tokyo Narita on a high-latitude polar route

The current level is 0.14 sv/h in Sendai
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyer wrote:
Putting into somekind of context

An example of a measured dose (not simulated dose), is 6 μSv per hour from flying from London Heathrow to Tokyo Narita on a high-latitude polar route

The current level is 0.14 sv/h in Sendai


Come to think of it, I may have been exposed to more radiation on my flight from Haneda to Chitose than I had been in Sendai Shocked
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Shonai Ben



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as i know no one is worried about radiation here in sendai....
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shonai Ben wrote:
as far as i know no one is worried about radiation here in sendai....


Yeah, yeah, I know. I chickened out Sad

But I did get to see Sapporo Very Happy

Job hunting has not worked out up here as I thought it would. Therefore, I will be heading back to the City of Trees to collect unemployment Wink
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TL



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan earthquake: desperate race to cool atomic reactor before radioactive leak or worse
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The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.

The warning follows an analysis by a leading US expert of radiation levels at the plant. Readings from reactor two at the site have been made public by the Japanese authorities and Tepco, the utility that operates it.

Richard Lahey, who was head of safety research for boiling-water reactors at General Electric when the company installed the units at Fukushima, told the Guardian workers at the site appeared to have "lost the race" to save the reactor, but said there was no danger of a Chernobyl-style catastrophe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/japan-lost-race-save-nuclear-reactor

My concern is that if the situation worsens and the molten fuel escapes the reactor and burns through the concrete below the reactor, there is a possibility that it will reach the water table. If that happens, the rivers will be contaminated and affect the drinking water in the surrounding areas.
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Shonai Ben



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cvmurrieta wrote:
Shonai Ben wrote:
as far as i know no one is worried about radiation here in sendai....


Yeah, yeah, I know. I chickened out Sad

But I did get to see Sapporo Very Happy

Job hunting has not worked out up here as I thought it would. Therefore, I will be heading back to the City of Trees to collect unemployment Wink


not a problem chief....i wasn't implying that about you.......just a statement in general.....
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Denizen



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it appears that Fukushima's troubles will require the burying of the facility in concrete to inhibit the release or radioactivity into the air. The soil and water, however, may not be unaffected long term in spite of the efforts. It's a tragedy for all in Fukushima and outlying areas that crops, fishing, and living in the area will be extremely limited and of considerable alarm.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/japan-prepares-bury-problem-following-news-uncontrolled-reactor-1-chain-reactions
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flyer



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it very hard to know who to believe

From what I have found out; most media etc (who are not experts in this field) paint a doom and gloom picture
however, most experts (that I have heard) seem to say that there won't be serious human health problems for those a reasonable distance from the plant

but who do you believe, there seems to be contradictory info everywhere?

but, one thing is for sure, everyone needs to be up to date with whats going on
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