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indianajake



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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 7:50 pm    Post subject: My prospects for the JET program Reply with quote

I'm interested in applying to the JET Program for 2005, but I'd like to see what my prospects are for getting accepted into it. My situation at the time I apply will be as follows:

Age: 24

Sex: Male

Education: Bachelor's of Science and Master's of Science from Purdue University, very high GPA's on both.

Japanese Skills: I have no experience in speaking or reading Japanese, but I have taught myself to count in Japanese numbers.

Certifications: I will have a license to teach Social Studies at the secondary level (Grades 6-12) within the state of Indiana, the license is also considered good in most of the other U.S. states. In pursuing this license I have taken a large number of courses about teaching methodology.

Experience: As a graduate student, I have two and a half years of instructing mostly conversational college classes called recitations, I have favorable references from their course directors. By the time that I would be ready to begin the JET program I will also have 10 weeks of student teaching experience which is essentially an internship where I am responsible for teaching a social studies class under the supervision of another teacher.

Thanks for taking a look at my post, if anyone could give me a realistic suggestion of what my chances are or any advice on how I could improve my prospects I would greatly appreciate it.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your age and education are no problem. You don't need a degree in Japanese Studies to get in.

Your lack of Japanese skills is also not a problem. Even people WITH some such skills don't get in. You won't be expected to use Japanese at work anyway. (But don't stop studying because it will be invaluable for daily life.)

Your teaching license could be good or bad. JET wants people to be ambassadors of internationalization, NOT teachers, although they say that some teaching experience is good. Since ALTs work with Japanese teachers of English (who do the majority of lesson planning and execution), you won't need teaching experience, but it might help to make you more aware of how to do things. Then again, some places might balk at someone who has several years of teaching experience because they might figure you will try to change their system. (Not a real problem in your particular case.)

I rate your chances as good as anyone else's. Show a serious interest in Japan (that is, not to women or manga or anime), a sense of adaptability to living in a foreign environment, and a lot of energy.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: My prospects for the JET program Reply with quote

indianajake wrote:


Age: 24

Sex: Male

Education: Bachelor's of Science and Master's of Science from Purdue University, very high GPA's on both.
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The JEt people take anyone who is a university graduate up until the age of 40. You must have at least a Bachelors degree and having a Masters won't make tha much difference (for the visa). GPAs irrelevant as many candidates are not from the USA where GPA is not used. the degree is for your visa, not as a mark of teaching ability. (JET is not baout teaching anyway, its about exposing students to English and foreign culture- its an exchange program)


indianajake wrote:

Japanese Skills: I have no experience in speaking or reading Japanese, but I have taught myself to count in Japanese numbers.
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Japanese ability is not required on JET as you are being paid to speak English and introduce your own culture. You are a teaching assistant for a trained and qualified Japanese teacher.

indianajake wrote:

Certifications: I will have a license to teach Social Studies at the secondary level (Grades 6-12) within the state of Indiana, the license is also considered good in most of the other U.S. states. In pursuing this license I have taken a large number of courses about teaching methodology.
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Formal teaching qualifications are not requested as you will not be teaching per se, but providing language practice and a native speaking role model. I would think the methodology for teaching Social Studies will not be the same as a communicative langauge class, where you are getting non native speakers to speak English. Previous experience and training is usually not required on JET.

They are looking for people who are interested in Japan, are flexible, interested in teaching and can cope with living in a foreign culture.

indianajake wrote:

Experience: As a graduate student, I have two and a half years of instructing mostly conversational college classes called recitations, I have favorable references from their course directors. By the time that I would be ready to begin the JET program I will also have 10 weeks of student teaching experience which is essentially an internship where I am responsible for teaching a social studies class under the supervision of another teacher.
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Like I said, most of the people applying for JET have never taught before and have no teaching qualifications. Many do not speak Japanese either. You stand just a good chance as any person when applying, but no one here can give you an honest appraisal, as they are not doing the hiring or making the final decision.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the MOFA website on JET

All applicants must:


* hold a Bachelor's degree in any subject by July of the year of departure;
* be a citizen of the country where the recruitment and selection procedures take place;
* have excellent skills in the designated language (both written and spoken). (For English-speaking countries this is English, and for non-English speaking countries it is English or the principal language);
* have a keen interest in the country and culture of Japan;
* in principle, be under 40 years of age;
* not have lived in Japan for 3 or more of the last 8 years, nor be a former participant in the programme for the last 10 years.
For ALT applicants in English-speaking countries:

* TEFL qualification is helpful, but not required.
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I won't speak of the JET program per se, but there will be certain aspects from your teacher training which should be very valuable in teacher large class EFL.

Lesson planning - Your experience in doing this should help you to make clear enjoyable lessons.

Time management - You will become more effective in the use of your planning time as well as pacing in the classroom.

Teaching techniques - A good history teacher will usually do lots of cooperative learning in class. This same technique can proove quite valuable in teaching communicative English, although there will be huge differences in goals, technique and students.

Classroom management - Obvious similarities.

Educational psychology - You will have a greater understanding than the Japanese teachers, unfortunately you won't be able to do much with it.

Important Note: Don't make negative comparisons about Japanese education to the Japanese teachers. They are sensitive about this.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, but I just have to take issue with what guest of Japan wrote.

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Lesson planning - Your experience in doing this should help you to make clear enjoyable lessons.

Most JET ALTs don't even plan lessons. They just follow the JTE's lead. Many serve merely as human tape recorders. No planning needed for that.

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Lesson planning - Your experience in doing this should help you to make clear enjoyable lessons.

See above remarks.

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Teaching techniques - A good history teacher will usually do lots of cooperative learning in class. This same technique can proove quite valuable in teaching communicative English, although there will be huge differences in goals, technique and students.

Again, see above remarks.

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Classroom management - Obvious similarities.

Not really. You won't take attendance; the JTE will. That also means reprimanding anyone who comes in late without an excuse, or taking care of the paperwork they give you when they do have an excuse.
Discipline will (and should) be entirely up to the JTE because of language and cultural barriers with the ALT. These are big barriers and could cover situations as simple as sleeping students to those who cause the infamous "classroom chaos" situations.

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Educational psychology - You will have a greater understanding than the Japanese teachers, unfortunately you won't be able to do much with it.

MAYBE you will have a greater understanding of it, but without understanding the cultural background behind Japanese classroom psychology, you are like a fish out of water. Besides, the OP has not even been a teacher in his own country, so any courses in educational psychology are merely theory, not applied knowledge, and are geared towards his home country's culture, not Japan's.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guest of Japan is forgetting an obvious fact:

not only does the OP not speak Japanese, he is also not certified to practice as a teacher in a high school classroom without japanese certification nor with a Japanese teacher present. JET are not by any stretch of the imagination considered proper teachers when they arrive here. The teacher he will work with has a four year degree, a teaching licence, completed a practicum years of experience in the classroom and also speaks the students language.

To think that a newly graduated university student with no teacher training and no language skills in the students language can walk into a classroom in a foreign country and start imposing foreign educational models and teaching technicques from another discipline on his students is being rather optimistic at best.
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski and PaulH,

I was not speaking directly on the JET program. I was stating similarities between large class EFL and history teaching and training in the US.

As for the JET program it seems that many teachers have very different experiences. Some are human tape recorders while others do plan lessons or at the very least activities.

As for a few points of contention:

Japanese ability: I consider myself failing in my endeavors everytime I use Japanese in the class. Certainly it is a handy tool, but sometimes it causes more harm than good.

Teaching License and training: The OP has stated that he will be coming after finishing his student teaching. If the OP makes the most of his student teaching opportunity he will be considerably more able than the fresh out of university lad that is described.

Classroom management: When you have effective classroom management classroom discipline will become less a problem. Simple things like walking around the classroom, knowing how to keep students on task, and projecting yourself as being in control of the class are invaluable techniques of classroom management. Taking attendence is a duty not a technique of classroom management.

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I would think the methodology for teaching Social Studies will not be the same as a communicative langauge class, where you are getting non native speakers to speak English.

The above quote is the reason I joined this discussion. Certainly my ideas may be irrelevant to the JET program in many instances.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, guest. Having my son sit on my lap while I read and type is obviously not the way to go. I didn't see that your comments were not directed at JET ALTs. Sorry.

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Classroom management: When you have effective classroom management classroom discipline will become less a problem. Simple things like walking around the classroom, knowing how to keep students on task, and projecting yourself as being in control of the class are invaluable techniques of classroom management. Taking attendence is a duty not a technique of classroom management.


As a JET ALT, he will likely do none of these things. He will not be in control of the class; the JTE will. He will not be keeping students on task; the JTE will. And, "effective classroom management" in Japan is pretty lame. I trust you have read about classroom chaos and how so many Japanese teachers are bailing out of the system or getting therapy for the stress imposed on them? Walking around the classroom is a rarity in Japanese high schools. The teaching system is based primarily on a lecture system, whereby teachers speak from the moment attendance is taken until (or even after) the bell rings. No discussion. No walking around to see if students get the lesson.

A JET ALT projecting that he is in control of a class is fairly laughable, especially to the students, most of which will see him as a mouthpiece (that human tape recorder) or anomaly because of appearance, not as a serious instrument of teaching English.

And, trust me, if you have not tried to take attendance in an unruly HS class, you have not practiced classroom management, so I consider it both a duty and a skill. Very Happy

I will also second what Paul wrote:
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the methodology for teaching Social Studies will not be the same as a communicative langauge class, where you are getting non native speakers to speak English.
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apology accepted Glenski.

I think will we have to continue to disagree with the similarities of teaching between the two fields.

For what it's worth, I was a high school history teacher in the US and many of the skills I developed there have been a great help to me here.

I am not trying to take anything away from specialization in the TESOL field. I am very aware of where the limitations are and do try to improve my skills and plan to pursue a Masters in TESOL.

PaulH, if I wasn't overly optimistic I wouldn't still be here or in education.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Having my son sit on my lap while I read and type is obviously not the way to go.


Getting in some quality time are you? Wink I know what you mean.
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Icebeaver7



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: i thought i was completely qualified, but i dind't get in Reply with quote

compared to a lot of prospects, i had tutoring and teaching experience, though not at the professional level. but i have worked with a lot of international students, children, and am bilingual in English and Chinese. i thought i had an excelent shot of getting in, in fact, i put all my marbles in one bag. even the guy at the embassy said i have a great shot of getting in. but voila, i didn't get in, and i ended up looking for other jobs, although i eventually did get into Japan. but not to be racist, but i really do think JET looks for caucasian rather than others first, because i was qualified and ready to go. but maybe i'm just naive and i was a bad candidate, i dunno.
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indianajake



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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Your age and education are no problem. You don't need a degree in Japanese Studies to get in.

Your lack of Japanese skills is also not a problem. Even people WITH some such skills don't get in. You won't be expected to use Japanese at work anyway. (But don't stop studying because it will be invaluable for daily life.)

Your teaching license could be good or bad. JET wants people to be ambassadors of internationalization, NOT teachers, although they say that some teaching experience is good. Since ALTs work with Japanese teachers of English (who do the majority of lesson planning and execution), you won't need teaching experience, but it might help to make you more aware of how to do things. Then again, some places might balk at someone who has several years of teaching experience because they might figure you will try to change their system. (Not a real problem in your particular case.)

I rate your chances as good as anyone else's. Show a serious interest in Japan (that is, not to women or manga or anime), a sense of adaptability to living in a foreign environment, and a lot of energy.


Thank you for this advice, I see that I may need to think more about my application strategy. The angle that I was planning to go with was that as I have been earning my certification to teach social studies I have taken many content courses that have exposed me to the fundamentals of western culture from the Ancient Greeks to the modern era. With this cultural knowledge I could serve my role as an "ambassador of internationalization" well. When asked about why I wanted the postion I planned on answering that as a teacher of social studies that I have a great interest in learning and experiencing different cultures and that I believe that in becoming a JET that I would have an opportunity to improve cultural understanding between our two nations, and upon returning to the states to work in my field I could use the experience to be more effective in cultural education. However, if holding a professional teaching license is a negative feature, I might want to reconsider making it the centerpiece of my application. I have also been earning a Master's of Science at the same time in a field outside of education. I could sidestep the entire issue of me having an education license and develop a different strategy, although my transcript is now filled with education courses so I doubt that I could conceal the fact that I've earned such a license, still if it isn't a strong point I shouldn't make it my main focus. Do you think that the strategy that I started with is one that I should stick with or do you think I should go back to the drawing board? I've still got plenty of time before applications are being accepted so I'm not opposed to reworking my tactics.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't focus so much on being someone trained in teaching. They really just want energetic, enthusiastic people who fit a certain mold of naivete about Japan. Of course, you will have to show some sense of being able to survive in such a foreign land, because you might get placed in a very rural area. But, I know of a few people who got hired just because the Japanese recruiter thought they looked attractive.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Don't focus so much on being someone trained in teaching. They really just want energetic, enthusiastic people who fit a certain mold of naivete about Japan. Of course, you will have to show some sense of being able to survive in such a foreign land, because you might get placed in a very rural area. But, I know of a few people who got hired just because the Japanese recruiter thought they looked attractive.


Yep. JET recruitment decisions are often very strange. With an MA the OP would definately be told that he is overqualified, because once he was here he would be treated more or less as a mouthpiece (just because they tell you that you are overqualified in the interview does not mean that they won't hire you outright, as in no waiting list). People with Japanese language ability sometimes get turned down. People with teaching qualifications and/or experience in teaching sometimes get turned down. People with neither of these and very little or no prior work experience even throughout school often ARE accepted.

One issue with the hiring is that Boards of Education are allowed to specify whether they want male or female, young or old and what country they want their ALT from.

Another issue is that different departure locations hire different types of people. And reject different types of people. The mantra of the JET programme is ESID (Every Situation is Different). Usually we think of this as referring to working conditions once you are here, but I think it also applies to every interview site. Reportedly, in some areas people seem to get turned down because of the colour of their skin. Some other areas have a strong preference for one gender. Where I left, it was mostly couples and single females who seemed to be accepted. Not single males. For two years in a row I saw the people leaving (I got waiting listed the first year, and never made it, waiting listed the second year and did make it). Each year a little over half the departing JETs were couples (this is one of the questions that is on the application and covered in the interview), and with the exception of one or two (out of the remaining 15-17) the rest were single females. Colour of skin was definately NOT an issue where I left from.

Senior high school students tend to look at the ALT as a teacher. Junior high school students almost never do. There are far more junior high ALTs than senior high ALTs in the JET programme.

The OP should go to www.bigdaikon.com and post in the incoming and potential board, although in general, BD seems to be becoming less and less useful (maybe that's why the OP posted here in the first place).
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