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sarahg



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know if Spanish universities offer anything similar to the lecteur/lectrice positions in French universities? These are typically given to recent graduates or master's students, pay a low but living wage, and involve teaching English or just giving lectures in English in classes that are conducted in English. They often go to students who are studying at the university or are on an exchange from a partner university in an anglophone country, and Americans qualify. Any similar programs in Spain?
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outofseoul



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Universities here rarely employ students.
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chenn0



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jovencito wrote:

Something else that is interesting for people wanting to stay in Spain for a long time and, as far as I know, only applies to Spain. 1) Get empadronado as soon as you get here. This is a relatively painless piece of Spanish red-tape that enables you to register with your local town hall. 2) Stay empadronado in Spain for 3 years 3) After the 3 year period, get a job offer, hire an immigration lawyer (fairly cheap in Spain and highly advisable as Spanish red-tape is to be seen to be believed) and hey presto you can apply for residence.
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If I went to Spain, I would definitly want to stay longer than three months and I doubt I would be studying anything. Jovencito, can you please explain that in detail to me? What is empadronado and red-tape? How do you go about doing this and remain empadronado? Do you have to stay in Spain for all three years?
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jovencito



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chenn0. Empadronado is a process handled by your local town hall (ayuntamiento). You register with the town hall by filling out a form that must be signed by a resident. Friends, landlords etc. can sign as long as they are residents. The form states that the person signing the form will house you and feed you therefore you will not be a burden on the state. You do not have to keep renewing your empadronado status. The process to get empadronado changes a lot (especially in Madrid) so check with your local town hall about how you go about getting the form, filling it out and filing it.

After being empadronado for 3 years you need to get a job offer (an easy thing to do) and then go and see a lawyer about what documents need to be filed in order to get your residency. Once the 3 year period is up, my advice is to hire an immigration "gestoria" (a company specialising in Spanish red tape) to do the processing for you. As of now, this can be done within Spain.

It is advisable to keep living in Spain during the 3 year period. You'll be able to travel around the Schengen part of Europe without any problem.
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chenn0



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your replay jovencito.

If I understand correctly, I(anybody wishing to be empadronado) first must be in the town/city where I will be living and then actually find or already have a Spanish home that will take care of me for up to three years to begin the process?
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chenn0



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jovencito



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chenn0. Sorry, I've had the flu. You have to get empadronado in the town you are staying. I'm not sure what the rules are about moving. I think that if you move then you just file a change of address. If you move out of the town, then you'll have to transfer your empadronamiento to the new town hall. Don't ask me about the latter, 'cos I don't know how it works.
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chenn0



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, don't worry about it jovencito. The flu sucks! I hope you're feeling better.

You know I was thinking..If I did go to Spain to get empadronado, I might either be able to stay with some long lost family there and do it...ooor...maybe I could do a study abroad thing and talk a host family or a pretty Spaniard into helping me get empadronado! Smile what do you think?
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jovencito



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting a student visa is OK but you have to be studying in Spain.

Finding someone to sign the empadronamiento is usually straightforward. It's more than likely your landlord will sign it.

Getting married to a local is an option, but unless you're ready for marriage it's not something I'd recommend.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is advisable to keep living in Spain during the 3 year period. You'll be able to travel around the Schengen part of Europe without any problem.


This is not necessarily true. While the Schengen zone allows people to travel without border checks, it does not PRECLUDE border checks. There are occasional checks on international trains and busses, and at train stations on platforms where international trains arrive. Any airport border official may check passports at any time.

There IS always a risk if you've overstayed your 90 days., including the possibility of any minor accident or other incident involving police or other authorities.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jovencito wrote:
Something else that is interesting for people wanting to stay in Spain for a long time and, as far as I know, only applies to Spain. 1) Get empadronado as soon as you get here. This is a relatively painless piece of Spanish red-tape that enables you to register with your local town hall. 2) Stay empadronado in Spain for 3 years 3) After the 3 year period, get a job offer, hire an immigration lawyer (fairly cheap in Spain and highly advisable as Spanish red-tape is to be seen to be believed) and hey presto you can apply for residence.


This sounds pretty good. From what I understand there are many people who could benefit. SOme questions
1. Have you gone through this process?
2. How much does it cost?
3. It's it risky? I mean, basically you're telling the govt that you've been in Spain illegally.
4. Wouldn't the company who hired you get in trouble for hiring someone who was in Spain illegally?
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Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jovencito wrote:
"The Treaty of Maastricht was signed by the Ministers of Foreign Affairs and of Finance on 7 February 1992 and entered into force on 1 November 1993. It was the second and most far-reaching revision of the founding Treaties. It created the European Union and thus the possibility to advance in the long term towards political union."

Spiral78, you've been here longer than you thought. It's not 12+, it must be 17+ years if you came over before Maastricht was signed. Time flies when you're having fun Laughing


As far as I remember though, the term EU wasn't used back in 1993, except as an abstraction. The term EC, European Community was still on passports for years afterwards. Sort of like the EMU and the Euro existed virtually before the real money came into currency... Could be wrong though...I lost track after the EEC... snore...


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mozzar



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jovencito wrote:
Something else that is interesting for people wanting to stay in Spain for a long time and, as far as I know, only applies to Spain. 1) Get empadronado as soon as you get here. This is a relatively painless piece of Spanish red-tape that enables you to register with your local town hall. 2) Stay empadronado in Spain for 3 years 3) After the 3 year period, get a job offer, hire an immigration lawyer (fairly cheap in Spain and highly advisable as Spanish red-tape is to be seen to be believed) and hey presto you can apply for residence.


From what I heard it's not 3 years, but 10.
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mozzar



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jovencito wrote:
Something else that is interesting for people wanting to stay in Spain for a long time and, as far as I know, only applies to Spain. 1) Get empadronado as soon as you get here. This is a relatively painless piece of Spanish red-tape that enables you to register with your local town hall. 2) Stay empadronado in Spain for 3 years 3) After the 3 year period, get a job offer, hire an immigration lawyer (fairly cheap in Spain and highly advisable as Spanish red-tape is to be seen to be believed) and hey presto you can apply for residence.


From what I heard it's not 3 years, but 10.
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pr455



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of student visas and working, I have had no problem at all "collaborating" with the Ministry of Education and public and private universities here in Spain. I also do teacher training for the Ministry of Education and will be back in another school as a language assistant. I like being a language assistant because it's very little prep and I aonly work 16 hours. This time I will be a language assistant in the BEDA program, or catholic schools. I am looking forward to comtinuing "collaborating" on my student visa.

Shawn
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