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MADAMELEACH
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 46 Location: WELLINGTON
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject: CHINA ACCOMODATION -DEPOSITS FOR GOD'S SAKE! (Shanghai) |
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I have been TOLD by a prospective employer that I need to fork out
3 months rent + 1month rent (collateral) whatever collateral means.
This, I have been told is the start up costs for accomodation.
Do we all have to find this kind of money when starting up in Shanghai or are we being fooled?
I simply cannot believe it is true that 3 months deposit plus one month full rent is required.
I have been around the block a while in a variety of Asian countries to know this simply cannot be -what is your experience? Appreciate it.  |
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daCabbie

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 244
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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That's average.
Some places/cities the market demands 6 months up front.
Shanghai is not a city for newbies. Work you way up to it. The investment is worth it in the end. No, I do not live there.
Good luck. A second tier city can be a simpler move. |
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choudoufu

Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:19 am Post subject: Re: CHINA ACCOMODATION -DEPOSITS FOR GOD'S SAKE! (Shanghai) |
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| MADAMELEACH wrote: |
| 3 months rent + 1month rent (collateral) whatever collateral means. |
that would be the security deposit. |
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jibbs
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 452
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:10 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds normal enough; had a friend in Nanjing with the same deal. His landlady would not accept one month's rent at a time after the first three months either. She wanted it after every 3 months. Guess it was always a bit painful handing over that much at once, but then no worries for another 3 months. |
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slareth
Joined: 29 Jun 2010 Posts: 82 Location: Shandong
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:28 am Post subject: Re: CHINA ACCOMODATION -DEPOSITS FOR GOD'S SAKE! (Shanghai) |
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| MADAMELEACH wrote: |
I simply cannot believe it is true that 3 months deposit plus one month full rent is required.
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You are looking at it wrong I believe. It's not a 3 month deposit. You are paying for 3 months at a time, one months rent is the deposit. I do not know about Shanghai but in Qingdao it is the same. You pay 3 or 6 months at a time. You are not being tricked because you are a foreigner in this situation. In fact...some may take it easy on you since many think foreigners are full of money so they won't worry about it as much.
The place I live in now was rented out previously and the former tenants paid 6 months at a time. I pay 3. /shrug |
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knight4ever
Joined: 02 Sep 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Shenzhen
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Nothing unusual about the deposits. In Shenzhen, almost all landlords require 2 months deposit up front plus the first month's rent to move in. You can negotiate price with most landlords. When you move out you will get your deposit money back. Just remember, cash is king in China. |
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MADAMELEACH
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 46 Location: WELLINGTON
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: RENTS, DEPOSITS and other Landlord fleecing activity |
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Well how about one month deposit and the one month rent in advance?
Possible in Shanghai or elsewhere in China?
I think it is so I am going to hold out for it.  |
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daCabbie

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 244
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Why not just stay where you are? |
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Mr. English
Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 298 Location: Nakuru, Kenya
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| In Guangzhou the standard is first month's rent plus a deposit of two months' rent when you move in. Many landlords are willing to negotiate on the amount of rent, but few are willing to negotiate on the 1 + 2 arrangement. |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| I've lived in 3 flats so far in Shanghai, both in Pudong and in Puxi. I've managed to negotiate the deposit/initial rent payment down for all three. My current landlord asked for 2 months deposit and two months rent... and we ended up with 1 month deposit and an initial payment of the first two months (and after that, one month at a time). The other two flats were very similar. I've never paid more than 1 mon. deposit and 2 months down. If they ask for three or more, negotiate. It's not unreasonable. |
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wailing_imam
Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 580 Location: Malaya
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