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think_balance
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 67 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: Looking for Advice |
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A bit of a long post, but I hope all this information will garner me some good advice.
My demographics:
Age: 37
US Citizen
Taught as an English Assistant in France in 2005/06.
B.A. in English
Graduating next week with an M.A. TESOL from my local university.
My situation:
I had surgery for cancer in 2009 and have been cancer free for two year. However, in order to be 'certified' cancer free, I need to be tumor free for five years, thus I have three years left in my count down.
My financial situation:
I have a good job in the tech industry currently. I'm debt free and have a bit saved for retirement. Whatever initial job I take needs to pay enough for me to live comfortably and send home at least $500 a month.
My current thinking:
Once I get my certification, I'd like to move abroad.
I know money is insanely good in the Middle East, but I also hear that one should wait until one is a bit older to teach there - as life there is a bit more mellow and settled.
I've planned on teaching in Japan for a few years, but with the EQ / Tsunami, I am not sure what the TESOL situation will be like in three years.
I've also wanted to teach in the Peace Corps (preferably Morocco) but I am not sure if I should do this as my first move in my TESOL career or wait.
I also hear that Turkey is looking to start something similar to the JET Programme - though, obviously, not in Japan .
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-239130-turkey-to-hire-40000-native-english-speakers-as-guest-teachers.html
Lastly, it might be nice to teach somewhere that is somewhat carefree and fun loving for my first gig.
My questions, then, are all about timing. Which should I do first? Am I going to be too old for Japan when I am finally cancer free? Should I jump in to the more lucrative areas first? Get some experience and connections in the Peace Corps?
How would you handle this? I have three years left - that gives me a chance to take some language / culture courses in the area to which I'll move and, hopefully, get some experience teaching ESL stateside.
If there's a thread I missed that discusses how to plan things like this, please let me know.
Thank you in advance. |
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Denizen

Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 110 Location: Tohoku
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Japan may be a nice fit.
Here's what I'd do if I were in your kutsu...
1. Get some documentable ESL teaching experience in the States, if possible.
2. Take some Japanese language classes.
3. If you can, try publishing some ESL related articles in journals to boost credibility.
4. Save around $5,000 as startup money for a stint in Japan.
5. After that, connect with people on this board (Glenski, for example) who are in universities for further advice.
If this sounds intimidating, you may want to get your feet wet at an Eikaiwa or as an ALT for a year before pursuing a uni job.
Good luck on your full recovery! |
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think_balance
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 67 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Denizen wrote: |
Japan may be a nice fit.
Here's what I'd do if I were in your kutsu...
1. Get some documentable ESL teaching experience in the States, if possible.
2. Take some Japanese language classes.
3. If you can, try publishing some ESL related articles in journals to boost credibility.
4. Save around $5,000 as startup money for a stint in Japan.
5. After that, connect with people on this board (Glenski, for example) who are in universities for further advice.
If this sounds intimidating, you may want to get your feet wet at an Eikaiwa or as an ALT for a year before pursuing a uni job.
Good luck on your full recovery! |
Thanks for the advice and well wishes. After doing graduate school WHILE dealing with cancer, nothing really scares me (training to climb Half Dome as a cancer fund raiser, in fact).
So you think I'm not too old for Japan? If so, then I'll start in on my Japanese courses. Had planned on doing some remedial French and intro to Arabic to prepare for the Peace Corps.
And thanks for the lead - I'd really prefer a university position over a language school - though I'd take JET if I got in (though I am almost certainly too old for that).
Cheers! |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Good grief no, you are not too old for Japan! You seem to have an ancient view on who gets jobs here. TEFL is not primarily for the 20-year-old set. Far from it.
As for what the situation will be here in 3 years' time, who can say? I'd strongly suggest you read up on the market from now till then. It's not getting any better.
You're likely not going to get a uni position without some Japanese language ability and Japanese teaching experience, and certainly not without several publications! Read the FAQ stickies and internal links in the Japan forum for more.
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| Whatever initial job I take needs to pay enough for me to live comfortably and send home at least $500 a month. |
Sending home that much money is not a problem in Japan, but you have to describe your view of "live comfortably".
P.S.
How did you (an American) get the visa to teach in France? |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
P.S.
How did you (an American) get the visa to teach in France? |
French and Spain govt offer these. They're about 10 month contracts to teach English. Legally
OP, as for the Peace Corps, I've had a couple friend do it and another, who's 63 and who will be going in the fall. It's a great way to get your foot in the door for govt jobs, helps you learn a new language, and learn about about another culture and yourself. |
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Happy Everyday
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 268
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Will someone please suggest ESL journals?
Journals are the creme de la creme. Don't rule out participating in symposiums, publishing in magazines, and publishing a book and articles via Amazon.
Personally, I've switched from focusing on publications to focusing on more performances. "Oh, you're an actor? Let's see your demo reel, let's see your resume. Can you teach it?" I've gotten good at using some of the showbiz razzamatazz to get shy students talking. Education has been my sideline jobs for years. After refining pedagogical methods, designing fun classes for conversation and learning were the next step. I would prefer to do more in the professional arts though, and if it must be teaching, the arts are also ideal and should pay more.
No offense to the linguists, whom I respect even moreso after learning IPA for acting and ESL, but I'm not the kind of guy who gets jollies out of debating whether or not a prohibition against clause-final prepositions is an arbitrary rule... even though most linguists today would file it under "prescriptivist poppycock".
My point is that I would climb the ladder more as in instructor because it is how I earn a living. Is getting published the only way? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| Happy Everyday wrote: |
| Will someone please suggest ESL journals? |
I did earlier with my generic word "publications".
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