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Mister Al · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there

If I wasn't interested in meeting any other staff members or getting a feel for the place (which could be useful) then I would refuse to go as well.

Complying withis type of request depends on how much the job means to you. You certainly won't be one of their favourites but you're probably thinking WGAF? Good on you for digging your heels in.

roadwalker · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch

In most locations, picking up extra hours isn't difficult: they find you. If you aren't interested in more hours with that school, or in extra activities just to keep the hours, you were right to turn down a meaningless meeting. The positive side of being a foreign teacher with short contracts and the ability to find work fairly quickly elsewhere is that we have the luxury of saying no to the hands that feed us. Chinese teachers aren't thrilled with their mandatory meaningless mind-numbing meetings. They go anyway, for some reason.

I'm to the point of being very skeptical when a Chinese boss asks: "Say, do you have time for a quick meeting?" My first reaction now is "yes, unfortunately I have something to do."

Good luck with next month/quarter's 300 yuan prize!

TexasHighway · Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 779

FTs are like sheep sometimes. I am proud of you are taking a stand! I wouldn't have gone either. If you went to this function, next thing you know they would expect you to do free English corners. And how did they decide who is the best FT who deserved an extra 300 rmb? If they want to give somebody a bonus, they should do it in private. I am sure all they did was to stir resentment among his or her colleagues.

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

Beyond1984 · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 462

"I just took up a part-time job (4 hours/week) at some place and they asked for my credentials. No problem: B.A./TESOL,passport photo; it's cool. Now they want resume and scan of visa/RP." -mister_kot

About a year ago, a PSB officer came to our college and read us the riot act. Shocked

We were warned that if we engaged in part-time work for any person or company other than that which sponsored our Z visas, we would be fined 5,000 rmb and our employer would be fined 50,000 rmb and be made to pay for our one-way ticket home. Twisted Evil

Has anyone heard of such a disaster befalling a moonlighter?

-HDT

tributary · Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 28

You should probably read the visa issuance law and how it clearly states you are not allowed to engage in work, paid or unpaid, volunteer or intern, with any facility, employer, etc. that of your visa host. The only exception is to obtain written approval/permission from your actual employer.

Otherwise, you (anyone) simply deserves to be fined and deported for violation of immigration/visa law.

wesharris · Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 177

igorG · Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: asia

mister_kot · Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 81

I don't have written permission, but my employer said I could work at other places if it doesn't conflict with my schedule at his school.

Beyond1984 · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 462

"You should probably read the visa issuance law..." -tributary

Could you provide a link?

I found in my contract a warning not to engage in outside employment without permission of my employer, the z-visa sponsor.

Maybe those in other provinces don't have such a contract provision ...? Confused

-HDT

flyingscotsman · Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 339 Location: Suzhou, China

clownshow · Joined: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 181

Contracts can say anything but just like in most native countries that FTs come from the visa is tied to the employer and working out side that boundary is not subject to employers approval. If the immigration laws don't allow it then it is not legal.

igorG · Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: asia

I think that many locally experienced FTs agree that the mainland employers' sponsor/own our work permits, however, not taking seriously contractual agreement clauses, that state "the FT is allowed to work part-time elsewhere", is just like ignoring a large variety of local employment agreement clauses that demand, from FTs, penalties, confidentiality restrictions etc. Descussing any employment laws/regulations in this country is always interesting, isn't it?

clownshow · Joined: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 181

igorG · Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: asia

Hard to disagree with that. Yes, there're laws, even in China, and any employer cannot override that. The point is that it's difficult to take the poorly written and often not enforced laws of one world into consideration, when your employment contract reflects another world. Which world do you think the rich live in this country? And, they don't even need the farce local lawyers that are only puppets anyway. The point is that someone should lead by example first. Should it be the foreign worker first?