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elliot_spencer
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 Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:21 am Post subject: HCT Fujairah |
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| Anyone else starting in Fujairah in August with HCT??? |
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: HCT Fujairah |
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| elliot_spencer wrote: |
| Anyone else starting in Fujairah in August with HCT??? |
May God have mercy on you and whoever else joins you.
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elliot_spencer
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: HCT pays best! |
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I have been looking at jobs in the UAE (and have found one) , but one thing that gets me is that HCT pays more than anyone else... salaries for ELT staff is between 14k and 18k AED (depending on quals etc) and most other school Kaplan included start at 11k to 14k AED..
So, why are HCT one of the best payers but gets most negative feedback? |
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It's Scary!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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It's the price exacted for selling one's soul and pedagogical principles.
It's Scary! |
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GriffinParka
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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That's right! But don't forget that, whereas IAT/Krapland are at the bottom of the pile, HCT is now only one or two notches above them.
Many years ago HCT was second to one (or one). Now the place is down with the bottom-feeders. Well done, TK!! |
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: HCT pays best! |
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| elliot_spencer wrote: |
| So, why are HCT one of the best payers but gets most negative feedback? |
Your statement should speak volumes to you regarding life as a HCTer.
With all due respect, elliot spencer, check the content of the posts...they don't focus on salary, just every other conceivable aspect of a job with HCT. Payday is great, but it's just one day out of 28/29/30/31. You have to survive all those other days each month.
One of my colleagues at FWC had been there for years, and he started counting the days to the next payday the day after the current payday. That was his mantra for survival at HCT, i.e. how he maintained his sanity there.
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:59 am Post subject: Re: HCT pays best! |
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| elliot_spencer wrote: |
| So, why are HCT one of the best payers but gets most negative feedback? |
HCT gets negative feedback nowadays because a serious upper management issue has appeared. That said, every branch of HCT - even the current bottom of the popularity contest ADWC - has teachers who seem to be able to muddle along ignoring all the sturm and drang that surrounds them. 
You will, in fact, find teachers in every branch who are happy enough with their jobs even between pay days. Much depends on the individual branch management, and one's ability to cope with some of the the inherent silliness of the HCT system. The reality is that it is mostly the unhappy teachers who show up to post. Teachers with positive experiences stay away because they get attacked if they come on here and post. I have friends in both camps... and they are all right.
Be sure to arrive knowing that you will NOT change the system, and the proper response to things is to smile and nod knowingly... especially during the excessive meetings. The old saying in Gulf education concerns two buckets... one fills with money... and one fills with the BS one must put up with. Teachers usually leave when one of those buckets is full.
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Kally Wally
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| to be able to muddle along ignoring all the sturm and drang that surrounds them..........Be sure to arrive knowing that you will NOT change the system, and the proper response to things is to smile and nod knowingly... especially during the excessive meetings |
Exactamundo VS
if ya can't hack it ya know what ya gotta do cause ya sure as hell ain't gonna change it |
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: HCT pays best! |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| The old saying in Gulf education concerns two buckets... one fills with money... and one fills with the BS one must put up with. Teachers usually leave when one of those buckets is full. |
The size of the BS bucket you need to bring with you varies according to the employer...for HCT, bring a huge one if you want to fill the one for money as well.
Oh, I'd like to read a positive post about HCT just to see all the spin involved in it. Ask yourself why the negatives posters from HCT are so fired up to post in the first place. Others have negative experiences at other places, but with the exception of IAT, I guess they're just not as angry about their experiences as those from HCT.
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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None of them will post here because the negative posters just relentlessly attack them... accuse them of lying... or of being a member of management. Exactly as many of you did to Kally Wally.
As I said, the fact is that neither the negative posters, nor those muddling along, are lying or a member of management. It is just that we all have a different level of tolerance for the BS.
This has always been true of HCT. The difference that I see that truly weighs to the negative for them is how they are trying to bend contractual rules and more effectively shaft leaving teachers. This was very rare in the past, though I saw them do it to a few teachers even back in early 90s. But, you could count the number in single figures. Now the new upper management seems to be moving from merely devotion to silly rules to make the teachers lives less pleasant to truly sleazy shafting of significant numbers of teachers for petty reasons - especially in Abu Dhabi where the new leader want to micromanage both branches to death.
He has managed in two years to completely destroy the reputation of the system. It will be interesting to see if they start fiddling the contracts of new teachers to give management more leeway for his games.
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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VS, of course you're right about the management nightmare at HCT.
But the problems are so much deeper...it's everyday life as an HCTer. I'm referring to:
--the mindless, insanely-numerous meetings (I had at least two scheduled, mandatory ones every week)
--the PD in all its disgusting forms (FGS, they even hired a PD company from the US to shove more of that crap down our throats)
--the paperwork jungle
--the innumerable rules, regulations, and procedures (my supervisor made a special trip to my workstation to remind me that there's a procedure for everything [emphasis hers])
--the massive faculty room filled with 70+ teachers and no privacy
--the students (so horribly behaved in most cases)
--the mandatory conferences
--the window dressing/smoke and mirrors/absence of substance that permeated every aspect of the "college"
and so much more.
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JohnCB
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:28 pm Post subject: HCT |
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| Well done Beast. Not only have you descibed the mindless mgmt of HCT, but it is fitting for IAT/KRAPLAND as well. Surly, both must be of the same establishment>right? |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dear JohnCB,
"Surly, both must be of the same establishment>right?"
What a serendipitous typo. 
Regards,
John |
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JohnCB
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:58 pm Post subject: HCT |
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waht? 
LOL |
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melt
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: HCT in general. |
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Hi all,
I've just been offered an 'FA' post with the HCT; sorry for not specifing which campus (NOT Abu Dhabi or Dubai). I've over 5 years post-CELTA experience (mostly in the Middle East), degree etc. What should I be expecting per month, considering that I have to pay for utilities and work-transport?
I'll be grateful for any feedback, because I've got to accept said offer within the few coming days. |
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