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Will being in my 40s hinder my ability to find work?

 
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Titanic Explorer



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:44 am    Post subject: Will being in my 40s hinder my ability to find work? Reply with quote

I'm 43, live in Boston MA (USA) have a M.Ed in Education, TEFL certification , experience tutoring local immigrants in English, and have keen love for travel.

Once I got my TEFL certification I had hoped to go to Japan or France to pursue teaching opportunities, but it never materialized- I got distracted with grad school, where I procured a Masters degree in education, with focus on moderate level learning disabilities.

I'm not bogged down with family responsibilities, as I don't have a wife or kids, nor am i trapped in a lease, so I can just 'get up and go'.
Here is the problem:

.I've been told that as I'm in my 40s, opportunities to teach abroad are very limited, as most countries (Japan) in particular want teachers in their 20s. I was sad to discover the JET program has an age cutoff and I'm too old.

New EU laws make is very difficult for Americans like me to land work in Europe- My favorite place on earth is France- teaching there would be a dream, but not being an EU member and being in my 40s seems to be 2 strikes against me.

Is there hope and are there opportunities for the 40 something person who wants to teach English abroad?
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to Mexico!
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Zero



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China is wide open.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan takes people far older than in their 20s. Don't listen to people who say otherwise.

JET has an upper limit of 40, yes, but it's a flexible rule. Show you are what JET wants, and they'll break it.

Just realize that you may be working for a foreign boss, or for some foreigner who is half your age and who has practically zero qualifications.
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BadBeagleBad



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never heard that for people in their 40�s. I think when things start to get harder are when you are in your upper 50�s maybe. But even then, I don�t think it is a deal breaker. I recent went to a workshop given by a woman who was obviously well on the dark side of 60, on using the internet in the classroom, yet obviously knew what she was doing. I wouldn�t have hesitated for a minute hiring her. I think for older teachers who are obviously tired of teaching and have an �old� look and feel about them, yeah, maybe it�s harder, but I think those would be in the minority.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change countries. There are plenty of opportunities out there.

If you have your teacher's license to go with that M.Ed then add Taiwan, HK, and top tier international schools to you list as well as middle of the road universities in MOST countries in Asia.

Even for those of us in our mid 50's, if you are charismatic as well as competent in the classroom there is no shortage of decent paying work.

And don't be fooled by looking at the base salaries of jobs overseas. You can often save more by earning less. One thing I have noticed about many Americans is that they look at the salary in terms of USD instead of looking at the quality of life and savings potential (a far better way to compare salaries across different economies).

For example:

I was earning about USD40k + benefits in S.Korea and after living expenses were taken off I ended up with a NET SAVINGS of about US$15k per anum.

In Thailand I only earn about US$30k (a drop of US$10k per year in earnings) but my savings are about US$20k (an increase in savings of about US$5k) with a better standard of living due to the differences in the economies and costs of living.

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Titanic Explorer



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
Change countries. There are plenty of opportunities out there.

If you have your teacher's license to go with that M.Ed then add Taiwan, HK, and top tier international schools to you list as well as middle of the road universities in MOST countries in Asia.

Even for those of us in our mid 50's, if you are charismatic as well as competent in the classroom there is no shortage of decent paying work.

And don't be fooled by looking at the base salaries of jobs overseas. You can often save more by earning less. One thing I have noticed about many Americans is that they look at the salary in terms of USD instead of looking at the quality of life and savings potential (a far better way to compare salaries across different economies).

For example:

I was earning about USD40k + benefits in S.Korea and after living expenses were taken off I ended up with a NET SAVINGS of about US$15k per anum.

In Thailand I only earn about US$30k (a drop of US$10k per year in earnings) but my savings are about US$20k (an increase in savings of about US$5k) with a better standard of living due to the differences in the economies and costs of living.

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Thanks for the sound advice everyone! Yes, i do have my teachers licencse ,I forgot to add that one....
It sounds like I would have some opportunities in Asia! Good to know I'm not too old! I'm just curious, would someone in my position be able to find opportunities in France, or is Europe more or less closed off to the non European crowd? Thanks!!
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm just curious, would someone in my position be able to find opportunities in France, or is Europe more or less closed off to the non European crowd? Thanks!!


It's difficult, but not impossible. Generally speaking, you'll have to impress employers so much with your superior qualfiications / hard-to-find experience that they'll sponsor you for a working visa. You then have to go back to the consulate in the US to apply for it there. Depending on the EU country in question, this process varies in speed and efficiency.

However, you may well find quicker loopholes - I'd recommend asking specifically in the France forum if anyone has any ideas. For example, if it were Italy you were asking about, I could suggest getting a part-time working visa (awarded to international students studying Italian - as far as I know no age limit). There may well be other options available to you in France.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

40s is still young. It's when you get in your 50s and 60s it gets harder. Look at different countries and different programmes. Spain and France have Ministry of Education teaching assistantships for Americans, pay is low though. International schools might be your best option. Go to intl school job fairs. best of luck!
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