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gloomyGumi · Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353

Am I doomed to work in dershanes/cram schools/illegal/under the table NIGHTMARE "schools"?

I heard if I say I INTEND to enroll in a CELTA that would be enough sometimes to get the job offer? Amazing.......if true.

I have a Masters but it is in INternational Business Studies.

What is the best part of Istanbul to do a longterm rental and make a valiant stand and try to get a job? I figure rent is ALMOST like NYC over there. $1500 US/month Im sure and up in the really nice areas. And from WHOM will I rent, being on a tourist visa no less!

lov2travel · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Istanbul

I was able to find a job recently for september and I also don't have a 120 hour Certificate and just 2 years experience teaching in Korea.

With a masters it will help you in the longrun and perhaps even here but I also found it difficult to find the position I did.

I was quoted by the employer that I should expect to pay around 300USD/month for rent..not including utilities. so i'm guessing around 4-500. Somebody living there now can probably give you a better estimate

gloomyGumi · Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353

thank you that seems cheap as hell. do you think arriving in Turkey in November is a horrible time to look for work?

lov2travel · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Istanbul

Not sure about Turkey but I hear the ideal time to find work is Late August/Sept as that's when the new semesters are starting.

I hope it'll be as cheap as he quoted and still have a working bathroom and kitchen haha

gloomyGumi · Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353

Wuld it be absolutely ludicrous to look for a job in Istanbul or even Bursa in December?

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I have known several Directors in KSA who would under no circumstances hire anyone with Korean experience.

gloomyGumi · Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353

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delal · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 251 Location: N Turkey

Er Gloomy why don't you just do a 120 hour course and get it over and done with?

gloomyGumi · Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353

some people have tol me that a CELTA isnt appropriate since I have 3+ years teaching English in Korea. They said a DELTA is more appropriate. But that is longer, harder and more expensive. What do you think? Or what abut 1 of those ITTT things on Dave's homepage? I know its not the cambridge-quality CELTA, ........ but...........

delal · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 251 Location: N Turkey

I don't know you so I can't give direct advice
However: if I had the choice between the Cambridge CELTA and something different, I'd opt for Cambridge and then nobody could quarrel with me over my qualifications (I did years ago and they don't)
As for CELTA v DELTA, that depends on you. Some people learn to teach and have an aptitude for it, others learn to teach specific course books. I suppose you'd need to go and talk about that face-to-face with a reputable course provider.

gloomyGumi · Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353

If I may, I think I have a natural teaching talent. Would that mean the CELTA or the DELTA would be more appropriate, as I know quite little about either?

coffeespoonman · Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 512 Location: At my computer...

Depends, after 3 years of teaching, the CELTA may be a bit too basic for you. It really depends on what you've learned over the last 3 years about how to talk about teaching, not just what you've gathered about how to teach. It also depends on your university experience, what and how much you studied.

The DELTA has just been classified as the equivalent of a Masters Degree by Cambridge. No doubt, this was to boost sales; nevertheless, it should give you an idea of its length and difficulty. If you are prepared to spend a year at minimum following a very rigorous academic program, DELTA is best. If it seems like a lot of work for little payoff, or if you're not sure that ESL is a semi-permanent career for you, you may just want to take the lighter, though also valuable, CELTA.

gloomyGumi · Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353

thanks to all for all this info/advice. Sounds to me that the DELTA is not for me. I've done a Masters at Thunderbird (AZ, USA) and one Masters is quite enough for me. Also, yeah, ESL is no more than a semi-semi-permanent thing for me, and 1 f/t year of rigor isn't in the cards for me.

I heard Turkey requires ANY kind of TEFL cert. Not that I want to do a $199 online special with i-to-i, but is there anything a bit easier than the CELTA yet still a decent cert in employers' eyes?

gloomyGumi · Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353

thanks to all for all this info/advice. Sounds to me that the DELTA is not for me. I've done a Masters at Thunderbird (AZ, USA) and one Masters is quite enough for me. Also, yeah, ESL is no more than a semi-semi-permanent thing for me, and 1 f/t year of rigor isn't in the cards for me.

I heard Turkey requires ANY kind of TEFL cert. Not that I want to do a $199 online special with i-to-i, but is there anything a bit easier than the CELTA yet still a decent cert in employers' eyes?