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8.8 Earthquake & Tsunami Hit Japan
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rich45



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: radioactivity Reply with quote

refikagurz wrote:
OK so I've been hearing snippets like this for a while now... radioactive tea, spinach, milk, dust in Tokyo, now beef. I've also heard that radioactivity has been found on/in vegetables grown well out of the 50 km "danger zone" because there are were "pockets" of the stuff blown around after the initial blasts.. some far far away from Fukushima... So my question is, is there anyway of finding out how safe our food is?!!! I eat a lot of leafy greens, and they are some of the worst crops to consume since they absorb the particles quite easily.. I've looked at websites, but to me they don't tell the average layperson like myself just WTF is going on as far as food safety or anything else goes. I don't mean to sound alarmist because actually I've maintained a pretty positive outlook on the whole situation so far.. But I must admit that lately I feel threatened.. Or should I say.. more threatened. Anyone else worried about food??? Am I worrying too much.. Geez I dunno. Don't attack me please I'm just wondering..

It is worrying of course, and I am trying to keep as informed as possible, but at the same time not losing any sleep over it.

Regarding the cows that were sent to various prefectures. I read that if a person eats this radioactive meat every day for a year, then their chances of dying from cancer increases by 0.5%. For balance, I lived in Seoul for a year and I think my chances of dying from respiratory illness increased by at least 0.5%, so I am not unduly worried at this point.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: radioactivity Reply with quote

refikagurz wrote:
OK so I've been hearing snippets like this for a while now... radioactive tea, spinach, milk, dust in Tokyo, now beef. I've also heard that radioactivity has been found on/in vegetables grown well out of the 50 km "danger zone" because there are were "pockets" of the stuff blown around after the initial blasts.. some far far away from Fukushima... So my question is, is there anyway of finding out how safe our food is?!!! I eat a lot of leafy greens, and they are some of the worst crops to consume since they absorb the particles quite easily.. I've looked at websites, but to me they don't tell the average layperson like myself just WTF is going on as far as food safety or anything else goes. I don't mean to sound alarmist because actually I've maintained a pretty positive outlook on the whole situation so far.. But I must admit that lately I feel threatened.. Or should I say.. more threatened. Anyone else worried about food??? Am I worrying too much.. Geez I dunno. Don't attack me please I'm just wondering..


I avoid buying anything grown in Fukushima, Ibaraki and Iwate prefectures (actually started checking this the week after the earthquake), and try to buy as much as possible from prefectures well to the south and west of Tokyo. All fruit and veges in supermarkets are labelled with the area of origin- a good reason to learn those kanji if you haven't already! I also only buy Hokkaido milk these days as a lot of milk is from Ibaraki which is a little too close to the affected area for me.
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my_way



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

regarding saving electricity......i'm disgusted with the mentality here. private residences shouldn't be targeted. yes, we can all save electricity and i have always made a point of it......but i go to ikebukuro, shinjuku, and shibuya for work every week and all the electric signs,ads, and video screens are back on....a total waste and typical hypocrisy!
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Sublime



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the 'radiation situation' still making the news in Japan?
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure it is- there's something every day about the situation at the plant, the IAEA officials' visit or the latest things to be contaminated- currently beef and compost.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:43 am    Post subject: This is not a BBQ, getting kids out Reply with quote

Agriculture ministry is going to burn contaminated meat -

"Japan announced a plan Tuesday under which beef tainted with radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster will be bought up and burnt, in a move aimed at restoring consumer confidence. Almost 3,000 cattle whose meat is feared to be contaminated with radioactive caesium have been shipped nationwide after being fed straw exposed to fallout during the more than four month old nuclear crisis."
--snip--

http://newsonjapan.com/html/newsdesk/article/91131.php

"310 children transferred to schools outside Fukushima city
The Yomiuri Shimbun

FUKUSHIMA--In Fukushima city, 310 schoolchildren were transferred to schools elsewhere by the end of the first semester due to radiation fears, according to a survey by the city education board.

Fukushima, whose center is about 60 kilometers from the crisis-hit Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, is currently not included in any designated evacuation zones.

The survey is the first revelation that schoolchildren in areas under orders to evacuate are being relocated over radiation fears."
-- snip --

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110727005894.htm
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namdak



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting article...

Japan Hid Radiation Path
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/09/world/asia/09japan.html?_r=1&hp

also:

Fatal Radiation Level Found at Japanese Plant
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/02/world/asia/02japan.html?ref=asia
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TL



Joined: 07 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US Government Considered Evacuation of 90,000 US Citizens in Tokyo

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According to Kevin Maher, a US diplomat and the former director of the Japan Desk at the US State Department in Japan, the US government considered evacuating all 90,000 US citizens in Tokyo right after the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant accident.


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The book, which is to be published on August 17, is titled "決断できない日本 (Japan that cannot decide)" (Bunshun Shinsho) and was written by Kevin Maher, former Japan Desk director at the US State Department. If the plan to evacuate 90,000 Americans had been carried out, it could have triggered reactions from other foreign governments, and caused panic among the Japanese.


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The subject of evacuating the US citizens was raised in the early hours on March 16 (local time). The US had already knew about the unusually high temperature of the reactors from the Global Hawk data, and determined that "the fuel has already melted". The US thought the Kan administration was simply leaving the disaster response to TEPCO, and "distrust [in the administration] was intense". The US high-ranking officials wanted to evacuate the US citizens [from Tokyo] but the local officials including Maher objected, as "it would severely undermine the US-Japan alliance". The plan was never implemented.


http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/us-government-considered-evacuation-of.html#comments


I agree with Mahar. The evacuation of US citizens would have resulted in the collapse of Tokyo's economy and chaos as millions would have tried to leave Tokyo. It is logistically impossible to evacuate Tokyo.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Another way to help Reply with quote

Here is a good way to help tsunami victims in Tohoku- if you have any appliances you are not using they would be much appreciated by people who have lost everything.

English website is here: http://fumbaro.org/en/homeappliance.html
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michi gnome



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/08/breaking-news-splashing-steam-from-the-cracks-in-the-ground/#.Tkkz9M8fr6Y.twitter
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TL



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The earthquake that just hit Fukushima prefecture can't be good for these cracks in the ground. Things just get worse.
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namdak



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fukushima�s Long Link to a Dark Nuclear Past
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/06/world/asia/06abomb.html
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TL



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it's time to buy Thai rice.

Rice touches cesium limit

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"The cesium level [at 500 becquerels per kilogram] of the rice was higher than it was supposed to be, given the radionuclide transfer coefficient. I wonder why such a high level of cesium was detected from this place alone," an official of the prefectural government said.


http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110924003191.htm


What I'm wondering is if they are looking for other radioactive substances aside from cesium such as strontium.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you can always buy rice from Miyazaki prefecture in Kyushu, well over 1,000km from Fukushima, or even Niigata prefecture on the Japan Sea side. You would think the entire country is irradiated from reading some of the overseas news reports.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL wrote:
Maybe it's time to buy Thai rice.

Rice touches cesium limit

Quote:
"The cesium level [at 500 becquerels per kilogram] of the rice was higher than it was supposed to be, given the radionuclide transfer coefficient. I wonder why such a high level of cesium was detected from this place alone," an official of the prefectural government said.


http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110924003191.htm


What I'm wondering is if they are looking for other radioactive substances aside from cesium such as strontium.


i saw this coming and bought a whole bunch of last years rice already.

I am in Chiba, so it is hard to find rice that is not from the Kanto or Tohoku area. As I feeel as though rice paddies might be magnets for radiation. As rain water pools in them.
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