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Shona Levingston



Joined: 03 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:43 am    Post subject: Transferring Funds Reply with quote

Hoping to get to China later this year. Just wondering, what portion of my salary can I transfer out of China to my bank account in Australia? Is there a limit?
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Lee_Odden



Joined: 22 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Western banking routing and account numbers (at least in North America and I assume this applies for all banks outside of China) are not internetworked with the Chinese banking system. You will have to convert your RMB into Australian dollars (at the Bank of China with your passport) and then make another trip to wire the money home through Western Union (available at all Post Offices and the Agricultural Bank of China). So, you'll have to wire the money to someone you trust at home, who will then make the deposit for you. There may be a daily limit on the amount of RMB you can convert (or wire on a single transaction) but I do know it will not exceed your monthly income (assuming you are coming here to work as a teacher). Razz

If you have a bank credit card or a Visa/Mastercard checkcard, you will be able to use it to withdraw money at the Communications Bank of China or Bank of China; payable in RMB. Unfortunately, you cannot use it to make deposits; only withdrawals. Sad

Lee
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I thought I was only staying here for a year, I enquired about taking money back to Australia and I was told that I could convert up to 70% of my salary. I was going to convert it to U.S. Dollars and take it with me, but that idea has all gone out of the window now, as firstly I do not have any money left each month and secondly I am staying in China.

I think Western Union may be the best bet, but it is not the cheapest way I do not think.

Roger will be the best one to answer this for you.
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CountryClub



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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Location: China

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What part of China are you going to?
I am able to convert 100% of my salary from RMB into another currency and I can go to the bank and transfer it to my account back home. I haven't done this yet as I am told it is an arduous and time consuming exercise. Fortunately I am close enough to Hong Kong that I can go there and send my money back home with little difficulty.
Also, I think you will find the bank is cheaper than Western Union if you are transferring larger amounts of money.
Rhonda is right; Roger will offer advice that is spot on.
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jimrothstein



Joined: 15 Mar 2003
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Location: Dalian, China

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CountryClub wrote:
... I can go to the bank and transfer it to my account back home. I haven't done this yet as I am told it is an arduous and time consuming exercise....


If you are referring to a bank-to-bank wire transfer, I agree it is arduous and frustrating if you haven't done it before. For small amounts of money (say, less than $2000 USD) it is too expensive.

I tried to wire USD from a China Merchant Bank (CMB) account in Dalian to my bank in the US. CMB told me about their fees (approx. 320 rmb), but didn't tell me that there would also be a correspondent bank (3rd party) fee. They also weren't too helpful with exact details of the transfer on the US side. I foolishly assumed giving CMB the US bank routing number would work.

Result - wire didn't go through, money bounced back to Dalian account - LESS a fee (in USD) that correspondent bank took and LESS the CMB fees. Really sorry I tried.

FYI, HSBC in Dalian was much more helpful and forthcoming with all the details. But they are more expensive and I decided to find another way to send money.
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Victoria



Joined: 02 May 2004
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is hilarious, China's economy is number one in the world.
China sells for billions to the USA (monthly!)
....you cannot transfer money... I have wired money from Guinea, from Indo. No comment...
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clomper



Joined: 07 Oct 2003
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm.. I think Steve plan to create a link on Money Transfer.

to answer your question, Western Union transfer at the main branch of China Post or Agricultural Bank of China has a max limit of USD2000 per day. You need to exchange your money to USD and pay the corresponding fees in USD as well. USD200-500 is USD15.. USD501-1000 is USD20.. USD1001-2000 is USD25
They can claim the money 10 mins after they put it on their system. Money received on the other end will be the same amount of money that you remit. I would suggest that you go through China Post since they will only require your passport for this transaction.

if you want to transfer money to your account overseas from here, it is also possible via Bank of China. You will be charged here and another charged will be made on your account overseas. Also, it should be in USD. Of course, any transaction at the bank means papers and headache! Smile

Hope this will help you! Smile

Claudine
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Shona Levingston



Joined: 03 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks to all for the info.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clomper wrote:


You need to exchange your money to USD and pay the corresponding fees in USD as well. USD200-500 is USD15.. USD501-1000 is USD20.. USD1001-2000 is USD25

Claudine


How do you change RMB to USD?
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clomper



Joined: 07 Oct 2003
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm.. Steve.. can you upload the money changing info pls.. Smile j/k.

naturegirl.. here are some options:
a. go to the main branch of BOC or ICBC in your town and bring the required papers to exchange your RMB to USD.
b. via black market.. tag along a chinese friend
c. ask a friend who has a USD account with BOC to change it for you (this is what I do)

Papers needed by BOC:
1. Passport
2. Copy of Contract
3. FEC
4. Salary Receipt
5. Tax Receipt
6. Letter requesting amount to be changed.

I hope this will help you.. Smile

Claudine
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clomper wrote:
Papers needed by BOC:
1. Passport
2. Copy of Contract
3. FEC
4. Salary Receipt
5. Tax Receipt
6. Letter requesting amount to be changed.

I hope this will help you.. Smile

Claudine


Ah, I don't have salary recipts or the original of my FEC. My boss in at home in Singapore. Guesss I"ll have to wiat until she gets back.
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Kitegirl



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This all looks supercomplicated - what do y'all think of this plan? Just change it all into Euros (if possible here in Guangzhou, US$ otherwise) and just stick it in my pocket to take out with me when I fly out.
I haven't got a bank account here anyway, am just stashing it under the proverbial mattress.
Cheerio
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arioch36



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, if you have someone back home you trust, when you get here get a credit card with Bank of CHina, the Communications Bank, or (I think) the Industry and Commerce Bank. Mail the credit card home to the trusted one. Then they can use it in Oz, and you can pay here in RMB.

I have now exchanged money on my own, not a big deal...IF, you know where the proper Bank of CHina is...and your FAO has given you the proper documents. This should be a sticky. You need a copy of your contract, a letter saying how much you can exchange (between you and the school....there is no legal limit), an official tax receipt ( the city governnment stamps a leter which shows your salary, and any tax you had to pay.

Easiest just to ask your FAO to do it...their job anyways

Or as clomper said, go to a big city, stand outside a major bank, and wait.
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school will now pay me all or some of my salary in US Funds. I know it's not the safest way, but I just wrap up my currency in an envelope and then go to the post office and send my money using the fastest and most secure way I can. (It's not airmail but the other envelope thingie they have that's even better and more secure).

The other day I went to the bank and wanted to take out $800 USD from my credit card then convert it to RMB. They said there would be a 3% fee for doing this and I said fine. Now, I assumed that they would convert the $800 to RMB and then deduct their fee. Well, it seems they charged my credit card $832 and then converted and then kept their share (I found this out when I visited my bank's website about a week later). I wasn't paying close enough attention and my credit card slip just showed the amount in RMB. If you can do the math, you will realize that $32 is FOUR percent of 800 so now I get to go back to the bank and argue over this $8.00 (but I probably won't, I've learned my lesson - - get the funds in US currency [step one] and have them hand the US currency to me [step two], THEN convert the money I have received into RMB [step three]).
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