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thailandreb
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 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: question about CELTA certication |
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On my previous post, I received numerous replies informing me that if I received a CELTA certification, I would be far more likely to land a reputable job in Saudi Arabia. Is this correct? My questions would be, if I applied with a CELTA certification, would I be able to get a job that I would not have a chance to land without one?
My concern over the CELTA is that many different companies or schools offer one, what are the differences between the programs, are any more reputable or accredited than others?
I have taken and received a TEFL and TESOL from i-to-i, which was a part online/ part in person course (basically 20 hours online and 20 hours in person). There seem to be so many different certifications (TEFL, TESOL, CELTA, DELTA, etc, etc), I know CELTA is the one for adults, so CELTA would not help at all in obtaining a job for children or young adults?
Would a CELTA certificate be looked at as an MA in TEFL (one site I looked at claimed this was the case)
I would stay here another few months and obtain a CELTA if it would really help that much. Any information would be much appreciated, thank you. |
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bulgogiboy
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: question about CELTA certication |
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| thailandreb wrote: |
On my previous post, I received numerous replies informing me that if I received a CELTA certification, I would be far more likely to land a reputable job in Saudi Arabia. Is this correct? My questions would be, if I applied with a CELTA certification, would I be able to get a job that I would not have a chance to land without one?
My concern over the CELTA is that many different companies or schools offer one, what are the differences between the programs, are any more reputable or accredited than others?
I have taken and received a TEFL and TESOL from i-to-i, which was a part online/ part in person course (basically 20 hours online and 20 hours in person). There seem to be so many different certifications (TEFL, TESOL, CELTA, DELTA, etc, etc), I know CELTA is the one for adults, so CELTA would not help at all in obtaining a job for children or young adults?
Would a CELTA certificate be looked at as an MA in TEFL (one site I looked at claimed this was the case)
I would stay here another few months and obtain a CELTA if it would really help that much. Any information would be much appreciated, thank you. |
1. You would get considerably more job opportunities with a CELTA, and from better employers.
2. All CELTA programs are regulated by Cambridge Uni ESOL, and as long as you have the certificate from an approved CELTA centre then nobody should question which institute you got it from.
3. The 1-2-1 courses seem to be next to useless, I'm afraid. I'm pretty sure any half-decent employer in Saudi would just disregard the fact you have it.
4. Most employers who are advertising for jobs teaching kids will usually ask for a CELTA or a PGCE. The principles in the CELTA program can be applied to kids, and that's acknowledged by employers.
5. No way is a CELTA ever thought to be equivalent to an MA in TESOL/TEFL. One is a 4 week program, the other is a program of in-depth study lasting at least 1 year.
Hope that helps. |
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: question about CELTA certication |
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| bulgogiboy wrote: |
5. No way is a CELTA ever thought to be equivalent to an MA in TESOL/TEFL. One is a 4 week program, the other is a program of in-depth study lasting at least 1 year.
Hope that helps. |
Right. An MA in TESOL/TEFL is a full-blown graduate-level university program. It can take 2+ years if you're working on it part-time (as I did--I had to work as well).
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thailandreb
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thanks for the replies, gentlemen.
I thought that sounded extremely fishy, but one website actually put that in their list of FAQ's. Must've been desperate to get as many 2,500 dollar admissions to the CELTA as possible.
Wish I still had the link to that site I read it on. |
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Saudi4Ever
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| Not true about i to i being useless. There are many people who have landed university positions in Saudi with an i to i certificate. |
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davt
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| the funny thing is that the CELTA is british English. I think it is weird that Americans should be expected to get the CELTA. TESOL/TEFL certification through a university program would be just as good for you. If you're not British I say don't bother with CELTA. |
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bulgogiboy
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| davt wrote: |
| the funny thing is that the CELTA is british English. I think it is weird that Americans should be expected to get the CELTA. TESOL/TEFL certification through a university program would be just as good for you. If you're not British I say don't bother with CELTA. |
Hmm, 'cause there's such a massive world of difference between British and American English, isn't there? I'm sure the last time Obama took a trip over to 10 Downing Street, Cameron's translator was working overtime. 
I wouldn't get hung up on the British/American English issue at all; the CELTA is an all-round, globally-recognised, prestigious TEFL qualification for anyone wanting to improve their CV and find better jobs.
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spiral78
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| the funny thing is that the CELTA is british English. I think it is weird that Americans should be expected to get the CELTA. TESOL/TEFL certification through a university program would be just as good for you. If you're not British I say don't bother with CELTA. |
I'm American, have been in EFL for nearly 15 years now, have been on hiring committees, and worked as a teacher trainer on 3 different courses. I have never encountered anyone who feels that the CELTA is specific to Brits. It's simply the name brand entry-level course. SIT and Trinity are also name brands. None are particularly focused on any specific genre of English. |
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veiledsentiments
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What makes the CELTA desirable is that employers know what they will be getting. The CELTA people have done a pretty good job of keeping the standards consistent over the years. I am American and don't have one as I went into the field with an MA, but if I were hiring, it would be a plus on a CV.
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simonenglish
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Unless there is a sea change in the TEFL world, the Trinity TESOL and Cambridge CELTA certificate courses (4 weeks training/100 hours) are the de facto, basic, universally recognised courses to go for. Anything else is subpar and maybe OK to get you going, but not for the better jobs.
The only country I know that doesn't give a damn about your TEFL certificate is Japan. In Japan it is all about your degree. |
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