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jamo22



Joined: 30 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:38 pm    Post subject: Quitting soon after arriving... Reply with quote

So I have only been working in Japan for 3 weeks now, but I'm unhappy at
the school im with. To be honest, they haven't treated me badly, but I just don't like the atmosphere and my situation-mainly the location. It wasn't what I was expecting. I also have to pay a general deposit of 60 000yen, which I'm not sure is legal?

What is your advise with regard to giving my 30 days notice? Is there anything they can do to revoke my visa or complain to immigration? I feel bad, but really i'm depressed in this job, and I am pretty sure the situation wont improve.

Thanks
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yamanote senbei



Joined: 28 Jun 2005
Posts: 435

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Quitting soon after arriving... Reply with quote

jamo22 wrote:
I also have to pay a general deposit of 60 000yen, which I'm not sure is legal?

A 60,000 yen general deposit for what exactly?
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Mr_Monkey



Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Location: Kyuuuuuushuuuuuuu

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would advise you to give it some time, personally.

I understand that that's not what you want to hear, but if you're new to teaching and/or new to Japan, it's a big change.

Relationships take time to develop. Professional relationships are no different in that regard. What is it about the atmosphere of the school that is so bad?

The visa is yours, but you will need an income - I don't believe you will qualify for unemployment insurance (I might be wrong, though - I'm sure others can correct me if I am) as you are leaving of your own accord. You won't be able to self-sponsor until the second year, so you will need to find an employer willing to sponsor your visa, so I wouldn't hand in my notice until I had secured another job. This may prove difficult as the employer is going to want to know why you are looking for another position so soon, and will be wary of hiring someone they might believe to be a midnight-runner. If you intend to stay in Japan, I would suggest that you are going to be looking for work for some time anyway.
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jamo22



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks,

Yes I want to look for a job in a city, not a town like im currently in. Basically I want to have a friend support network, something that is impossible in the town i live in. How does visa sponsorship work exactly? I was under the impression that once you had the visa, that was all that was needed.

The deposit is for bills that might arrive after I leave, and damage to the apartment.
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Mr_Monkey



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Location: Kyuuuuuushuuuuuuu

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that is the case with the visa, but how do you plan to eat if you're not working? If you;re in a company apartment, how much do you have saved for when you move in to your own? I was referring to the practicalities of life really.

How far are you from a major city (like a million people or so?) What part of the country are you in, if you don't mind me asking?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sounds like culture shock is setting in fairly hard. Please try to put things in perspective. You agreed to work here, and the employer is only concerned with that. They took a risk in hiring you from abroad, but in these days of high competition, you won out. Give them a longer chance.

You want a friends network? What's the situation at work? That is, how about your coworkers? Also, are you hoping to have a gaijin friends bubble? Think about how that will affect your integration into Japanese culture. Think about how it will affect your personal schedule to study more Japanese language. Friends are great when you relocate, but they take time to make, and the best shot you may have in the beginning is coworkers (Japanese or foreigners).

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I just don't like the atmosphere and my situation-mainly the location. It wasn't what I was expecting.
What do you mean by "atmosphere", and just what were you expecting for that and location? Your statement makes one wonder whether you were not told enough by the employer, or you didn't do enough research yourself. Hard to know which is the case.

As mentioned above, you get to keep your visa whether you quit or are fired. However, what are you going to tell the next employer who asks why you left your current job after less than a month? Technically, you cannot be unemployed for more than 3 months and keep your visa unless you have some extraordinary circumstances (see question 17 here: http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/zairyuu/qa.html ). You must also consider that from October to February, there won't be that much work advertised. Pretty dead time of year.

The deposit is not all that common. AEON or ECC (I forget which) asks for one-third of that just to ensure that applicants will show up, but I think they get it back very soon after arriving here. In your case, it sounds like the employer has had some less than desireable previous teachers who may have skipped out.

Unemployment insurance. Your employer should have paid into it, but some don't. I think you need to have worked at least 80% of the time for 6 months before you can claim benefits anyway.
http://www.daijob.com/en/columns/terrie/article/742


Hang in there. Use Skype to chat with friends and family back home. Explore your neighborhood and see what it has to offer. Don't be afraid to poke your nose into shops and spread your face (if your town is as small as you say, people may already know "the foreigner", but show them how friendly you are). Keep a journal, especially with pictures, to document what you are seeing day to day. Make it a point to learn at least one new thing daily about your life here.
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OneJoelFifty



Joined: 06 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man up!

Friends will take time, and Japanese ones can be hard to make. Without knowing more about your area it's hard to suggest what you might be able to do. Is there any kind of community centre where you live? Are there any groups on Facebook with members from your prefecture? Do you have a hobby that might be being practiced in a group setting somewhere nearby?

As Glenski said, it's culture shock. You need to give 100% at work and hope that things improve, and they definitely can. Leaving without having another job lined up is not a good move. Is your company a one-off or do they have other locations around Japan?
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